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[mi22ad]

Greetings fellow seekers.

I would like to recommend a free on-line course in Astral Projection, given by www.gnosticweb.com.

I have bought and read a lot of books on Astral Projection in my life, but none of them have given me the same great results as this free on-line course. Everything is easily explained in video-files and there are forums where every question you might have can be answered by competent teachers, this makes this course much less “static” then a book and it generates a kind of group strength, as you can discuss the astral with all the others, from every corner of the globe, that are taken the course as the same time as you are.

I can really recommend the courses at Gnosticweb.com, and as they are free, there is nothing to loose in checking them out!

The courses are given several time every year, the next round of courses are to begin January 10 2006

Regards
Mattias I, Sweden

[cautious]

Greetings fellow seekers.

I would like to recommend a free on-line course in Astral Projection, given by www.gnosticweb.com.

I have bought and read a lot of books on Astral Projection in my life, but none of them have given me the same great results as this free on-line course. Everything is easily explained in video-files and there are forums where every question you might have can be answered by competent teachers, this makes this course much less “static” then a book and it generates a kind of group strength, as you can discuss the astral with all the others, from every corner of the globe, that are taken the course as the same time as you are.

I can really recommend the courses at Gnosticweb.com, and as they are free, there is nothing to loose in checking them out!

The courses are given several time every year, the next round of courses are to begin January 10 2006

Regards
Mattias I, Sweden

That the leader's incarnated Master is Belzebuub disturbs me.

http://www.gnosticweb.com/index.php?PageID=17

[mi22ad]

Hello

Many people are disturbed by this name, as it is often connected with the devil or with demons. The only suggestion I can give is to read about Belzebuub on Gnosticweb.com, in the section about modern masters. One you have this incredible information, that no one expects you to believe in, you can start your search to see how and what he really is, using astral projections.

There are very few people that don’t have an issue with this name in the beginning, just keep an open mind and don’t believe, try to verify or prove false on your own. And try to see beyond the name, look at the teaching and try the techniques.

Mattias

[cautious]

Hello

Many people are disturbed by this name, as it is often connected with the devil or with demons. The only suggestion I can give is to read about Belzebuub on Gnosticweb.com, in the section about modern masters. One you have this incredible information, that no one expects you to believe in, you can start your search to see how and what he really is, using astral projections.

There are very few people that don’t have an issue with this name in the beginning, just keep an open mind and don’t believe, try to verify or prove false on your own. And try to see beyond the name, look at the teaching and try the techniques.

Mattias

Hi Mattias,

I don't want to be overly confrontative on this, as they allow pretty much any belief system here other than rude.  But its not just a name.  The section of the site you mention states this IS the same Belzebuub who was a demon who was "given" the physical body of Mark H. Pritchard (The "master" who teaches this free on-line course) in 1996.  According to the site this demon through the use of the given body and his "incredible will and determination fought for his own spiritual transformation" and thusly changed his ways and is now a good spiritual being.

As far as your counsel to: " just keep an open mind and don’t believe, try to verify or prove false on your own." but "you can start your search to see how and what he really is, using astral projections." I'm not sure I would agree.

There are a number of people here quite able to get an accurate read or determination of someone with their current skills.  That's not to say that a use of astral projection might not help them.  But to suggest that the best or only method to use to get a feel for "Master Belzebuub" is to use a course taught by him seems a bit circuitous.

Just my personal opinion.

[workerant]

Do you guys mean B E E L Z E B U B  ?

[Gilain Irongrinder]

I will bite the bullet and take the course for everyone here who is wondering. I'll try to let you know if I become possessed by any forces outside of myself or feel myself slipping to the dark side. Also, you can watch me and see if anything happens to me outside of my awareness. That should help shed a little light on the subject.

I have found that it is not safe to judge something by one particular aspect of the thing, but that it needs to be considered as a whole. That's especially true when the judgment comes down to a few particular words. I'll do my best to consider the course with that in mind. If I didn't take that attitude, I would not be RVing, because the Bible strictly forbids it. I'll send you all a postcard from the other side if I can't get back.   Be fearless.

[restful]

Ok, ok--I'll bite .  Where/how does the bible "strictly" forbid RV'ing?  Please give me scripture, verse, where you get yer information.

Thank you,
Brayden

[Quiss]

Just because PJ is apparently not around very much is no reason to give up the reasonable and very few basic policies of this board.

Number one: no advertising. Whether Mattias is part of the advertised web site or not isn't the point, nor is the "free" aspect of this deal. The post is sure written like an ad. I wonder if you get a set of Ginsu knives with that. (interesting debate perhaps: when is an ad and ad and not a recommendation?)

Me being skeptic: How do they pay the rent, if this is free? Are only the two 'beginner' courses free? Are you only invited to the "introductory lecture" at the study centers before you have to whip out the Visa for more? (of course I'm not saying they SHOULD be free - but my point is that this post is an ad) Why are so few of their 'teachers' over the age of 25?  Do I trust my self discovery, never mind my astral body, to a 'teacher' who first heard about this three years ago? Why do all the staff testimonials sound like they were written by the same person?
Some day I'll learn how to suspend disbelief, I'm sure....

[Gilain Irongrinder]

Quiss - you make very good points. Those are precisely some of the reasons why it's not really so scary. It's just another source with another perspective, as far as I'm concerned. I will never pay them a dime, no matter how nicely they ask, unless the teachings somehow bring me untold riches, so as long as it is in fact free, I appreciate the invitation. I could probably stand to make a donation in that case.

Excellent point about why they run the site and how they pay the rent. I'll need to dive in a little deeper and I'll try to answer that.  

[mi22ad]

Hello

If I write like an ad, I am sorry. English is mot my first language and I have perhaps looked at tom much American advertising.

When it comes to the free thing, the courses are given free, both on the internet and in the centre around the world. People can give money but this is completely voluntary, I guess that the idea is that you give money when you feel that the courses have benefited you in some way. They sure have rent to pay, but everyone working in the centre or online does it completely free of charge. This is based on the belief that you can’t charge for true spiritual knowledge, it is everybody’s right to get access to this information, even if you cant afford to pay a dime for it.  

Mattias

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