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Author Topic: The 'next level' movements in skill  (Read 1242 times)
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« on: August 27, 2003, 02:09:24 AM »

Most viewers eventually say that their skill seemed to improve, rather than linearly and gradually, in "jumps".  It's like one day, they had a certain session experience that just seemed to take them to a new level from that point on.  

What kind of sessions, or targets, or overall elements do you feel have contributed to your increase in skill--or at least, "depth" of viewing--over time?
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« Reply #1 on: August 27, 2003, 01:26:03 PM »

Hi there,

With me there have been long plateaus followed by slight improvements, rather than sudden jumps. I think the main improvements have been because of the familiarity and experience that comes with practice.

After I had been viewing for a while I began to notice that sometimes I was aware of a diffence in 'feel' between some different types of target. 'Live' targets (eg outbounders) often seem to have a 'busier' feel to me. I also tend to have a higher 'score' when viewing targets where I have subsequently been interested in the feedback.

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« Reply #2 on: August 29, 2003, 09:09:46 AM »

I hate to admit it but esoteric targets have always seemed to lead to big jumps in the quality of my work.  The more I think about it, the less I know why.  Right now, the only thing I can come up with to explain it is that these kinds of targets, with far-out elemnets and strange perceptions, teach me not to ever edit the information as it comes in.  They teach me not to judge the data, just perceive it and get it on paper.  But I know it's more than that.  The subsequent changes in my RVing had little to do with judgine or editing, as far as I could tell.  So there's something more, I ust can't pinpoint what it is.

Another thing that's made a difference is to stop trying so hard and so long to reach that exact mental place that feels right for RV.  Since I do ERV, the mental state is important.  But it took me a long time to realize that it's not as important as I had previously thought.  We can RV from any mental state, the altered state just makes it easier.  I've found that I have to be careful not to expend too much time and energy trying to get into exactly the right altered state before I open to the target.  If I do, I don't seem to have enough mental energy left to do a good job RVing.

One final thing - there are many, too many to list - is doing outbounds as opposed to picture targets.  This may be a byproduct of increased confidence.  Since I seem to do much better on outbounds anyway, when I go back to doing picture targets, I seem to be much better.  I think doing nothing but outbounds for several months raises me to a new level.
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« Reply #3 on: August 29, 2003, 09:16:37 AM »

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Another thing that's made a difference is to stop trying so hard and so long to reach that exact mental place that feels right for RV.  Since I do ERV, the mental state is important.  But it took me a long time to realize that it's not as important as I had previously thought.  We can RV from any mental state, the altered state just makes it easier.  I've found that I have to be careful not to expend too much time and energy trying to get into exactly the right altered state before I open to the target.  If I do, I don't seem to have enough mental energy left to do a good job RVing.
 



Don, this was good to hear. Thought provoking....

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« Reply #4 on: August 29, 2003, 03:29:34 PM »

Several postings lately have referred to 'outbounding' ~~  I could use a crash course on what this is exactly  Wink

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« Reply #5 on: August 29, 2003, 07:03:24 PM »

Hi pdPJ,

In early remote viewing research, they were working more in a 'telepathy' model.  They would send a person, sometimes called a 'beacon', or sometimes called an 'outbounder', to a location, and then have the remote viewer describe that person's location (and what they were doing or paying the most attention to, in some cases).

This model was mostly abandoned after further research proved that viewers did just as well without someone 'at' the target as they did with them.

Casually these types of sessions are often referred to as 'outbounder' sessions.

When people in today's RV field, talking about current stuff, refer to outbounder targets, they are usually referring to a target which has as its focus the location and/or activity of a person.  Sometimes themselves.

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« Reply #6 on: August 29, 2003, 07:13:45 PM »

pdPJ,
I should clarify what I mean when I use the term "Outbounds".  It basically means what PJ described but we do it a little differently.  My tasker will take pictures of local paces, usually public places like a library, park, playground, grocery store, etc.  each of these are then sealed in evelopes.  When I RV them, my intention is to describe the location at the time I will be there getting feedback - so it's essenially precognitive RVing as well.  After I do the session, my wife and I go to the location and see how well I've done.  They're a lot of fun and seem to be a lot easier than picture targets.
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« Reply #7 on: August 29, 2003, 07:39:27 PM »

Thanks to both of you....got it !   Cheesy
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« Reply #8 on: August 30, 2003, 03:33:07 AM »

Hello Don,

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My tasker will take pictures of local paces, usually public places like a library, park, playground, grocery store, etc.  each of these are then sealed in evelopes.  When I RV them, my intention is to describe the location at the time I will be there getting feedback - so it's essenially precognitive RVing as well.  After I do the session, my wife and I go to the location and see how well I've done.


It would be really interesting if your tasker could arrange for you to be taken (unbeknownst to you of course), the *wrong* target.

I would very much like to know whether you would pick that up anyway, or whether your session would be completely off. I wouldn't mind betting that you would; or at least a significant part of it...but don't take me up on that cos I haven't got any cash at the moment  Grin.

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« Reply #9 on: August 31, 2003, 06:23:07 AM »

Hi Glyn,
Well, we've never done that.  But since I'm targeting my future feedback, I'd guess that I'd pick up on where ever we went that was supposed to be associated with that specific session.  

Some interesting things have happened.  Like I've picked up on stuff we've seen *on the way to* the site.  That's happened a lot.  And there's been several times when we were going to go for feedback on a certain day but it was storming or we had to put it off for some other reason.  What's interesting is that no matter how many times or how long we put it off, my sessions still hold true for the moment we are actually there.  Things that are clearly only there for a short period will show up in the sessions, like certain people, or a Snickers candy bar wrapper on the ground next to a flagpole (that  actually happened after putting off feedback for 6 months!), or a specific kind of car parked in a certain place - that sort of thing.

The above is one reason why, when people tell me that precog targets are harder than regular targets, that the hit rate goes down - I can't agree.  All of my outbounds are precog and I have a better hit rate with those than with anything else.  But of course, outbounds of any kind have a higher hit rate, I think.  I like doing outbounds the best for that reason, lol.  It's good for the confidence!
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Don
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