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[weewizard]

  I have often wondered about the often speculated levels of RV beyond those that are taught publicly. Has anyone ever come across information related to any CRV levels that may still be "classified"? Or that they suspect are still classified?

[Fire]

I don't know that CRV was ever classified, formally.  Only that the military was using it, I think.

I'd heard Swann's S7 related to sounds.  I seem to recall hearing from one of the intell guys way back that only Bill (aka "Liam" online) had done a little training with Swann in this.

Far as I know, Ingo was still developing and refining the methods at the time the contract was ended.  I don't know what he hadn't yet got to teaching or hadn't completed developing when it ended, or if he kept on after that.  Probably a good question for Paul Smith.

Of course he's one of those Secret Intelligence Men (SIMs).  A virtually real person, LOL (thinking of that SIMs video game).  But he'd likely know.

Fire

[Damien]

    Ed does do S7 training.  It basically involves relaxing your mouth and vocal cords then trying to say basic syllables of the "target".  He gave showed me how they had used this to track the Chandra Levy killer to his place of work.  If its him and the place I don't know but very interesting data none the less.

                                           Peace to all,
                                                               Damien

[weewizard]

That's interesting. I don't think I'd ever considered vocalizations before as a possible continuation of another stage, but that does make sense. I've heard that bilocation can also happen to a viewer going into a target, but I'd never heard this described as a formal stage, more like something that just "happens" on occasion. It seemed as if formalizing the bilocation experience would allow for more information to be returned to the session, so I would have thought formalizing that process might be another advanced stage. For a simliar reason, I felt as though formalizing the establishment of a form of telepathy with any subjects in the target in order to "read" intentions would also have been an advanced stage. Lyn refers to such connections in his book briefly but never describes them as being formal stages of CRV. I had "heard" somewhere that there had been as many as 14 stages developed, but for the life of me I can't remember where I heard that. Anyway, I've always found it interesting to wonder along which lines the science eventually developed.  

[Psispionen]

I have often wondered about the often speculated levels of RV beyond those that are taught publicly. Has anyone ever come across information related to any CRV levels that may still be "classified"? Or that they suspect are still classified?

The Seventh Stage is indeed the "Vocal" stage but is not to be done as the finale Stage in CRV.

Try it after you have been disengaged in Stage 5 and connect yourself to the target in a very special way as Stage 6.

Modeling as Stage 7 gets a "complete new meaning" after a successfully performed Stage "Seven".

Excellent for RI applications.

[Psispionen]

That's interesting. I don't think I'd ever considered vocalizations before as a possible continuation of another stage, but that does make sense. I've heard that bilocation can also happen to a viewer going into a target, but I'd never heard this described as a formal stage, more like something that just "happens" on occasion. It seemed as if formalizing the bilocation experience would allow for more information to be returned to the session, so I would have thought formalizing that process might be another advanced stage. For a simliar reason, I felt as though formalizing the establishment of a form of telepathy with any subjects in the target in order to "read" intentions would also have been an advanced stage. Lyn refers to such connections in his book briefly but never describes them as being formal stages of CRV. I had "heard" somewhere that there had been as many as 14 stages developed, but for the life of me I can't remember where I heard that. Anyway, I've always found it interesting to wonder along which lines the science eventually developed.  

Formalized bilocation is termed ERV.

Ingo Swann developed another 11 non-official stages in total, including the snipped "Seventh" Stage.

[cautious]

"Ingo Swann developed another 11 non-official stages in total, including the snipped "Seventh" Stage."

This is the first I have heard of this.  Perhaps you would list them, or better yet provided some serious detail on each one.  Pleasssseeeeeee?

Thank you!!

[energycritter]

There you are cautious....your first posting and I was just wondering about the name...it made me cautious...

BC, the EC

[cautious]

Well just cause I'm Cautious doesn't mean you need to be.

Cautious

[energycritter]

My cautiousness is more pretence than true caution...

I could guess that cautious is the third identity of someone that I already know two of their other identities...? Not sure, just speculating with as much effort and affectiveness as being truely cautious.





BC