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[Member#247]

We have determined that there are 3 true remote viewers of sufficent talent on this message board. There may be a fourth who is able to at least partially block him/herself (Which is interesting to say the least).

The task before your is to reply here to a viewing test . There is an item place on top of the middle of my computer monitor. Simply reply as to what this item is. We are attempting to see if there are other who are able to view but mask their abilities (knowingly or unknowingly).

I appreciate your help in this

[Scott]

Member# 247 wrote:
We have determined that there are 3 true remote viewers of sufficent talent on this message board. There may be a fourth who is able to at least partially block him/herself (Which is interesting to say the least).

Scott responds:
That's amazing!  How did you make this determination?

[Member#247]

I'm one member of a group who is seeking to boost membership. We are seeking the truly gifted. We have a certain number of mental telepathists who with aid of remote viewers find and locate gifted but usually untrained individuals.

As stated 3 individuals who frequent this messageboard seem to be fairly gifted with remote viewing. Our stronger MT's say there is possibly another who "drops off" as soon as they are located. The assumption is they are somehow shielding or otherwise blocking themselves off to our MT's.  We would love to actually contact this person.

[Joe_Black]

Whats the purpose of your group?

On top of your monitor. That narrows it down alot don't you think, drop a random number instead perhaps?

[Eric]

What?

You can remotely determine people talent level, which is astounding... yet not so good at spelling, eh?  (sufficent)

That aside..

You have identified an item atop your monitor.  Dont you realize, being oh masterful amazing RVer that you claim to be, how much frontloading that is?  Youve given away size, wieght, and location.  Had I to guess, its a trinket of some kind, like a toy of some sort, or desk knick-knack.  No RV used yet.  Shall I continue?  Do I win a prize?

If I were RVing a blind target, and identified the item as something small, light, and on a PC monitor, well hells bells, I would call that a pretty good hit.

I would suggest if you want to test people, you use a better target that has less frontloading involved.  Sorry for the admin bashing, but I have seen this test suggested before, and it was just flame bait so the poster could then swear RV doesnt work later.  We have no control of what you got on your monitor, whether you change it, whatever.  Hoping you werent that other guy, but suspicious nonetheless.

Watch the trolling people....  if that isnt your intention, then I apologize.  But you need a way better target to test anyone, and for that matter, alot more independent trials.  JoeM claims %60 hit rate at best.  If I gave him 1 target- and he missed- it would surely not negate all the other amazing RV he's done.  

EricT

[energycritter]

Well done Eric.....

That was not bashing, just good ole straight talk....what you said needed to be said....



ec

[Member#247]

Purpose of the group is to foster knowledge and understadning of psychic talents. It is combined use of talents that allow others to be located.

As to the test being front loaded. It is not. The item has been specially placed there and is not  a "knick-knack".   It is though a set place that has been desginated. THe item will remain there until the test is over.  I focused on the item and that (it has been our understanding) often helps a remote viewer locate and view the item more quickly.

[polka_dot PUH_JOMMIES]

OH GOODIE GOODIE!!

It's been quite a while since we've had a 'hot topic' and this one could be a scorcher.  

I've read all the posts with great interest and while doing so, received many impressions and sensings...psychic and otherwise.  The term Remote Viewing is a label defined by certain principals. The underpinnings of remote viewing is, however, just good plain ole fashioned psi. Surely you took our ability to sense things into consideration when you made your offer (baiting ? ) right?...that there are those of us who would pick up on intentions and the like and then 'just know'.

We have determined that there are 3 true remote viewers of sufficent talent on this message board      

     
This is fascinating...that  from a membership of over 300,(yes, I know you said message board) that you (the 'we') determined 'who is good' but that you can also count how many are good...wheeee...Excellent.

Member 247 ~~ just who is this (your) group? What are your or your groups credentials?  How is that by making your offer within TKR it boost membership...(whose membership?)
You are asking much from the membership but offer little to excite us (as far as the offer goes that is).  

...your group: seems to me that you're having access to the remarkable ability of 'honing in on the good ones' that you hardly need the wee 3 from the TKR membership.  All that is needed to boost your membership is to lurk around the umpteen chat rooms and psi sites to pick out the finest worldwide and then invite them to your group and have at it. OH.....but this has been done also...the lurking I mean  

...you have alluded to familiarity to this membership: by reading the postings?  If yes, then you must recognize that this is a quality group not easily fooled or lured. Sure, you may pick up a few who will want to give this a whack, but others will simply 'know' and will do otherwise.

If you have read the posts here, you will have noticed that this group can and does chase down details...we want truths and understandings with supporting details and information. Your thinking that your saying 'you are a member of a group' is good enough to float, missed the boat.

 

We would love to actually contact this person.

     
couldn't resist this one ~~ want to know who they are??  have you tried remoting them as a target?...within protocols of course.  wheeee hooo  
     
     
For the fun of it, consider this:

You have identified an item atop your monitor.  Dont you realize, being oh masterful amazing RVer that you claim to be, how much frontloading that is?  Youve given away size, wieght, and location.  Had I to guess, its a trinket of some kind, like a toy of some sort, or desk knick-knack.

     
     Here is how remote viewing has worked for me in the past. My subconscious knows what the target is no matter how it is disguised, hidden, obscured or manipulated. ( I said my sc...not my logical/rational mind LOL). The point is, when presented with a target, the intent of the sc is to hone in on the target no matter how the target is presented. This being the case, whatever is on top of this monitor could simply be a picture of the actual target in an envelope. Example: therefore, the target could be the Taj Mahal or Mount Everest....larger than a trinket.
 So, while it may seem that too much information has been given, has it ?  Hmmmmm


    Not a good idea to mess with the TKR members...but being from 'your group', you knew this right?
     
phhffft


oakie dokie...next?



     
     

[Eric]

Purpose of the group is to foster knowledge and understadning of psychic talents. It is combined use of talents that allow others to be located.

As to the test being front loaded. It is not. The item has been specially placed there and is not  a "knick-knack".   It is though a set place that has been desginated. THe item will remain there until the test is over.  I focused on the item and that (it has been our understanding) often helps a remote viewer locate and view the item more quickly.

Thanks for the hints.  I guess if we push hard enough, we might be able to determine what this thing is from sheer logic?  Interesting RV test.  How about just a traget ID next time?

Sorry, I am both unimpressed with your methodology and your candor.  The flak you are getting from all on the board here should be a good indication to you, that your method of pushing your "membership drive" is being recieved fairly poorly.  BTW target cueing is an HRVG method, and, I believe that is where I saw this test before.  Gonna go dig that up on the archives, see what is what there.  I dont believe you were in a group then, with telepaths and whatnot.  If that is you...

Were all here to learn, get better, discuss and debate.  But pretending to be something you aint, or just plain being ominously spooky kinda reeks of an unchecked ego issue.

Sorry if I am reading this incorrectly, but I call it as I see it.  

BTW

Once the galleris come up, people will be able to post thier sessions, all double blind, anonymous or named.  Its cool.  And will in short order seperate the talkers from the do'ers.

EricT

[Member#247]

Well it is not just that there are only three. Only three have been "noticed". Part of this test is to determine if their are more people here who are somehow able to hide themselves from from our MT's.

If you are offended by this test and how I went about this then I'm sorry. Part of our group said this was a bad idea. The rest either thought it would be a nice attempt or couldn't hurt.

Another interesting thing that i've noticed is that some individuals claim to view in different ways. Perhaps those who train in a group formulate and relate in similar ways while others train in different ways. For us it is the ability to focus in on a mentioned location and view what is occuring at that place in real time. Not seeing the future, not astral projection. We remain in our bodies but are able to view the location.

That also being said their is a lot of exploration about what all one can or can't do or could one day do. Combination, strength of abilites and the like included.

Again this was no bait simply a test.

As to our group as to our group we were formed by Dr. Daniel Hirschman in 1934. He was interested in the the studies Dr.Rhine was doing at Duke University. World World 2 with is mass conscription hamper much of his studies but after the end of the war he began studying. After some years some and promising results University of Chicago decided his research was not verifiable he moved to to Baden, Switzerland. Research continued and he opened Hirschman Mind Institute inviting the gifted to train. Since then some other satellites have been set up in areas like Christchurch, New Zealand; Caesarea Maritima, Israel; Kyoto, Japan, and Lake Havasu, United States.