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[penny]

I doubt that you can be helped !!

[penny]

the Mihealth and the ihealth are not standard scenars, they are customised by neshealth. RITM Scenars range from $800 to $5000 from home user version to professional, for therapists or doctors.

[PatMcDonald]

Let's just be clear here please Penny - what sort of dollars? US? Oz? Kiwi? Canadian?

OK, I know about development costs. OK, I know investors charge this horrid thing called interest, or "parasite charge" as some know it.

I'm trying to be pro here. It's just VERY VERY difficult for me right now, with my background and experience.

Sorry for the negativity but I honestly can't help it.

[penny]

Pat, it is obvious that things are difficult for you right now, you are spinning out in threads all over the place. ! This is getting off topic, and life is what you make of it. good or bad, also, I didnt post that for people with an attitude like yours. you will get no more valuable information wasted on you from me !!

[Loraine]

Hi Pat ... imo (relative) poverty is your saving grace on this occasion. Half the world is hell bent on a road to subservient existence without autonomy by transforming themselves into Techno Humans dependent on products whatever the cost. I'm glad these rip offs are pricey deterrents, only those who shun these aberrant devices will retain their potential to become independent sustainable Total Humans.

[penny]

Lorraine,

Does that apply to Hemi-sync and brain tech entrainment methods ? It is obvious to me that you dont know what you are talking about. I dont just post any old crap on here without thinking about it first. Its not rubbish in - rubbish out. ! 

I have researched this area in depth for a long time. Explain yourself. Prove your claims in relation to Scenar. Stand behind your own attack. Be scientific. Come on, lets hear it, ?

Or is it just bigotry, anti-Russian propaganda,  stirring the pot ?

"Hell bent on a road to subservient exixtence" ? Are all these insults just for me ?? 

[penny]

The russian nation has been oppressed and controlled for a long time, untill Pestroika. Yet,  like coal, when enough pressure is applied you get a diamond. Out of russia comes a diamond souled generation. Hardly materialists. If the russian people make oodles of money from their technologies then good ! fantastic !, share the worlds resources, share the wealth !! Who really are the Techno-humans, the Materialists ? take a long hard look at yourself.

"In 1999 Scenar was introduced to the United Kingdom and from there to other parts of the western world. The sports industry has picked up on the use of Scenar following the success of the Russian use of scenar at the Sydney Olympics. For example the British national soccer team now has four scenars for use with their players and claim healing time is reduced fourfold. Russian results for 17,309 patients showing total cure for 85% of patients and significant improvement for 95% of patients.

The scenar is a non invasive, non drug dependant, biofeedback device that speeds up the bodys own healing process. The scenar is based on research that showed that the body heals itself by creating a positive electric charge around the injury. This electro positive charge attracts the healing action of the immune system and other restorative agents in the body which operate with an electrically negative charge. With chronic disease the body habituates itself to an injury and stops regarding it as something to be repaired. The scenar works to restore the correct electrical polarity in the body so that the healing process can proceed.

[penny]

The  Scenar also has setting to reduce pain and sypathetic nervous system overloads as well as frequencies that give the body energy to heal. The scenar works to increase the effectiveness of any other treatment that is used by opening up energy pathways in the body.

The cited results above were for the following conditions, I wont list all of them.

transient dytonia of blood vessels, essential hypertension, angina pextoris, acute myocardial infarction, sudden cardiac arrest, acute heart failure, ischemic heart disease, cardialgia NOS, hemorrhoids, gastric and duedonal ulcers, enteritis, colitis, hepatitis, pancreatitis, many diseases and trauma of the musculoskeletal system, also numerous diseases of the respiratory system, urogenital diseases, diseases of the ear, loss of hearing !,   

[Loraine]

Penny ... I didn't mean to insult you. My intention was to draw Pat's attention to a (longer term) upside for anyone who's not rich enough to purchase (scenar or any other) product 'aids' as short cuts to health, development or well being. That is, bluntly, if you're strapped for cash so can't buy in external assessment or assistance you're more likely to pay attention to innate self awareness and realise intuitive independent solutions (far preferable IMO) I do know what I'm talking about - if you don't use it (meaning any human ability or skill) then you'll lose it. The more you do use it the more reliable it will become. The more we rely on machines the more dependent we are on machines. I didn't refute the efficacy of scenar or other biofeedback therapies, but feel sure that Pat would be better off honing his internal feelers independently (for free)

I do know biofeedback is a relatively safe and effective way in to the psyche and physiological signalling processes (if you don't mind side stepping your intuition) As it happens I've long been convinced of the sound science behind bio-feedback techniques from researching interventions for AD(H)D for myself, family and others during the 90's. I didn't use it myself. Scenar hadn't quite reached here, though I knew about the Russians being ahead of the game on this (and, no coincidinky, RV too) from reading. However, in the 90's here there was much talk about other biofeedback options as treatment for AD(H)D which I couldn't even consider cos of cash restraints even if I'd been willing to slight my natural intuition (always appreciated intuition and allowed it to trump other senses throughout my whole life - it's part of the upside of AD(H)D -remaining connected to primitive instinctive drivers) I was working with pre-school children at the time though, and whenever parents sought advice or observation reports on their children, eg when quacks pushed them towards the chemical cosh, I would always suggest they try less harmful interventions first (dietary restrictions, chemical avoidance, music (drum, drum, drum!) therapy, family counselling, and if they could find it and afford it - NLP or bio-feedback.

Btw, I'm not anti-Russian. I am very anti-propaganda, especially in schools and my TV has come very close to being destroyed on many occasions when I hear the outright lies being programmed in 'documentaries' and 'news'. I prefer Russia Today taken alongside my pinch of salt, to the insidious Bullshit Brainwashing Communications we get here - the BBC is the original and best of all at it imo because most of their UK audience (the whole world perhaps) still trust their motives.

Be light, stay bright, do right
With best intent
Loraine

 

[Loraine]

Also, Penny I know that you 'dont just post any old crap on here without thinking about it first.' I usually find your posts spot on, never rubbish. What is true is that I do just post any immediate spontaneous reply on here without thinking about it first -always speaking out of turn off the cuff, OR - wearing my heart on my sleeve (depending on your point of view)

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