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[Tunde]

Or ten experienced viewers doing five sessions each over a week and contributing their net results for one weekly prediction...

Expensive project to maintain viewer's input. Hope you got a budget... 

er why would it be expensive ?

T

[PatMcDonald]

Hmm... depends on your definition of experienced viewers, I guess. I was thinking "experienced and professional" rather than just "experienced".

[Tunde]

Hmm... depends on your definition of experienced viewers, I guess. I was thinking "experienced and professional" rather than just "experienced".

Ah ok I see what you mean. I was refering to experienced viewers
right here in TKR Not necessarily professionals you have to hire.
There are hardly any of those anyway. Joe is semi retired the other RV
schools or companies appear to have dried up or disappeared off the face of
the earth. So its down to the folks right here.

T

[Daz]

T,
Oh I don't know - there are a few out there working. I know of a small bunch. there is also a growing pot of work for viewers who have the balls to show their stuff. Literally a minute before writing this I was offered the second project in two days @ $500 a session.

The more of you who show what you can do - the more viewers you will find doing it and work that will pay you for it.
Trust me there are viewers getting paid for viewing, and not on ARV work or anything experimental - money for normal run of the mill rv work.
Daz

[PatMcDonald]

Am currently number crunching a "professsional" team economics model.

The details are complex, but essentially viewers would be paid minimum wage for the session (guaranteed unless not enough sessions are submitted, when nobody gets paid) plus equal profit share if the data is correct, over a year. Viewers would be encouraged to share session data after deadline of each project, but feedback would be delayed until the event had transpired. Admin share (tasker analyst) would be the same as each viewer, but payroll doesn't go to admin if the results do not happen.  About 1 hour per week for the viewer and 8 weeks per year unpaid holiday. It's kind of an equitable (fair) capitalism concept.

No point coming back to me until I'm sure the model works, which is going to take me at least a week, maybe three. I do like to test models to destruction and get a solid design together before commiting resourcespeople. Those who've done projects with me before will be informed and invited first, others can apply to be put on a waiting list for a vacant viewer spot - leaving or joining the project will result in profit shares being paid/started from the transition date.
Who wants to make some money?

[Gene]

Hi Pat,

I’m not sure you would need to go through all that. I mean having someone put up such a substantial amount of money and just the administration costs to put someone on a payroll is no small matter etc. What I was thinking was more along the lines of simply sharing the end product with all who input work to get a result. So let’s say you’re going to do an ARV on whether the Dow Jones is going to go up or down over a specific period of time. So 50 people submit their ARV results, someone tabulates it and viola those results are shared amongst the 50 viewers and the few people doing the administrative work. How much if any money each individual chooses to put into the matter is their own concern and would be done privately by each.

Gene

[PJ]

Pick something ongoing that could have a limited set of options.
Find a person willing to input into a webform the 'outcome' of each period of time (day? week? compared-to?).
It'd be easy to set something up that was extremely simple and that kept stats.
I don't mean a big project (another exists unfinished for that) I mean something really simple.
The first two are the hard part. Establish those and I can give you a link to the entry/tracking for anyone to use, and link to it here.
PJ

[Mulva]

At 12:41 of video, how to make the most and maximal of the #5 to #1 connection?

Is this not the most important aspect of making the project work and making:

[katzenhai2]

Here’s what I wonder. He says that by using 50 trials to decide one ARV question, a correct result will occur 90% of the time.

What I don't understand is the statement of Greg K. having 90% success rate with 50 trials. It contradicts his statements on his blog and webpage.

Blog statements (http://adventuresofgreg.com/blog/2011/10/04/did-i-open-a-can-of-worms/):
- "Recently, the number of trials has been from 50 to 80 [...]"
- "[...] my success rate for trades which are a consensus of individual trials is about 75% over 100’s of trades [...]"
- "The individual trials are 54% correct [...]"

Website statements (http://www.remote-viewing.com/indexmain.html):
- "75.41% of the projects were successful in predicting the outcome of the random event [...]"
- "52.95% of the individual trials were successful [...]"

Trading statement (http://time-machine.com/statement.html):
- 57.80% cumulative success rate after one year
(I suspect he used projects as well, which would show only a success rate of 57.80% in projects and not 75% for that trading year. Will email him about that.)

BTW: His video from page one is gone.

[PatMcDonald]

Will be interesting to see what Greg K's final words and analysis are of results. Right now I don't know one way or the other.

See, EASY to oversell a service. Very easy.

Good business is about maintaining honest service levels. Because everybody remembers when they got ripped off, or just felt that they got ripped off.

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