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[PatMcDonald]

Each time a Mission task is requested the Dojo generates a unique task number for that request.

And I still haven't heard WHY. I will not be doing any further missions as the system is too easily exploitable.

Sorry. Either everybody gets the same tag or there is no warranty whatsoever that we are all remote viewing the same target. Or indeed that we are being tasked with unknown targets that may involve the use of RI.

[Loraine]

Thanks for spelling that out Pat, it makes good RVlogical sense to me. I agree with your stance.

I too have raised this point (in a 1ARV group project probably), when the set up involved multiple target coordinate nos. knowingly being applied to one target (quite different when it happens by chance allocation without awareness of course) In group viewing, I think the unnecessary additional arbitrary unaccounted for bunch of other viewer's nos. which are simultaneously associated with the target along with each individual viewers no. can only serve to maximises the opportunity for entanglement hence providing direct specific means from the target to other viewers' session data etc. It was mainly this fundamental problem, along with concerns about some of the photosites, which made me realise I really wanted my own system within in a short time of trying Marty's PRECOG10 system.

With best intent
Loraine

[Slorri]

I can not readily see any problem with individual Target Reference Numbers (TRN), these are supposed to be random, and not supposed to tell anything about the target, as opposed to Coordinate Reference Numbers (CRN).

The system at the DoJo seems very secure, and one gets a TRN for the mission as a token of being assigned to it, no more, no less, I guess.

[LD]

Each time a Mission task is requested the Dojo generates a unique task number for that request.

And I still haven't heard WHY.

Pat,
PJ designed it that way in the beginning because of people's concerns about 'telepathic overlay' and the like. At the time (and still, though thankfully to a lesser extent I believe) there were a lot of people who thought if two or more people were viewing the same task with the same task #, that there would be some sort of bleed-through or contamination of data from the other viewer(s) working the same target #. PJ didn't/doesn't believe this herself (nor do I) but programmed the system that way to make it friendlier to people who were worried about it. It's been that way from day one.

I will not be doing any further missions as the system is too easily exploitable.

I'm sorry to hear that. Everyone has to choose for themselves what they are and aren't comfortable with. I certainly don't agree with your conclusion that unique task numbers equals nefarious exploitation though. Believe what you like, but it's been proven time and again that task numbers are ultimately irrelevant, that tasker/viewer intent is what drives targeting.

Sorry. Either everybody gets the same tag or there is no warranty whatsoever that we are all remote viewing the same target. Or indeed that we are being tasked with unknown targets that may involve the use of RI.

How is everybody getting the same task number any kind of warranty that everyone is viewing the same target or that there's not some sinister ulterior task? With all due respect, to me that is faulty logic and just doesn't make a lick of sense. I mean, in that line of thinking even if everyone got the same task number couldn't that number be assigned to some top secret task?

Your participation is valued, Pat. But if you're not comfortable taking part in the Missions then of course you shouldn't do so. Each target number is randomly generated and assigned by the software when a Mission task is requested. You have only my word that none of the admin are double-agents selling masked sessions harvested from the Missions studio to the highest bidder on the psychic black market. We're just not that interesting lol. _{(Except for maybe Marv. I have my suspicions about him and MI 6...)   (Kidding!)}

Best,
LD

[Glenda]

Ulterior motives.  I certainly think everyone on here just sees things from their perspective.  It is what makes a group mission interesting.  If it is a rock star on stage, some will see the person, some the audience, and others the location, the physical structure.  None are wrong answers.  Different perspectives.  I hope that all people do the missions ,and who really cares what perspective we catch on a group session that is not so personal, really, because it all is meant to fit together.  I do enjoy reading them as each peice of a puzzle.   

[Glenda]

I think of missions as no wrong answers, just free, none of us are getting paid, providing one free piece to a whole to see what it is or what it means.  We have different perspectives that particular week's mission and go with it.  Some weeks, I spend a lot of time and some almost none and some it just seems confusing and others more clear.  I figure it is all okay.  I get nervous and mess up, I admit, but I still enjoy them, or at least reading them.  We are all learning.

[PatMcDonald]

I certainly don't agree with your conclusion that unique task numbers equals nefarious exploitation though.

Your conclusion is not accurate - I did not state that exploitation was in progress. Merely that it was possible... and not necessarily by those that maintain the Dojopsi web pages. Other agencies could certainly exploit the process without the members here even being aware.

One tag, one target. Sorry. If somebody hands me something else and says "this is RV" then I have to say I have seen no research evidence to back up the assertion that it is RV.

[Glenda]

I admire questioners.  Some have said that I am one.  I'm pretty laid back in general to most people.  It is just that I have a different perspective.  From my area geographically, all viewing is considered bad.  Even considering that other side is bad, evil.  It is nice to find a place that is about studying the possibilities.  It really is not bad or evil.  Some children do it, and all adults, but they don't always admit it.  I've had grandmothers admit dreams to me, and not to tell anyone.  One grandmother told me, after her grandson was ran over, that she had dreams the night before that there was a horrible accident, for the first time in her life, and woke up screaming.  Truth.  She was a deacon's wife.  I just nodded and smiled and told her it was nice that she connected with her grandson, even during a time of tragedy.  He was her only grandchild.  I guess it comforted her.  It probably scared her.  It is natural, but it is scary too.  I like a scientific site that has rules.  How can you really rate or prove anything with them?  There are no wrong answers, just learning.

[LD]

I personally believe the viewer him/herself holds the power with their own intent and belief systems. I think if a person believes and accepts an idea that they can be exploited and misdirected to shadowy hidden tasks and agendas, well maybe they leave themselves open to that possibility and only what they believe will make them 'safe' actually will - be it a personal TRN prerogative or a circle of salt and a blue candle. Everyone gets to choose what they believe and I think usually whatever it is they do believe will prove itself to be true to them no matter what it is.

If somebody hands me something else and says "this is RV" then I have to say I have seen no research evidence to back up the assertion that it is RV.

Not sure what you mean by this.


TRN protocol has been hashed over for years in RVland. There used to be people who believed that letters could not be used in TRNs, or else. There was the people who argued that task numbers absolutely had to be eight numeric digits formatted 4x4 with a hyphen - or it wouldn't work at all. There was the people who were worried that one day we were just going to run out of task numbers, and TRNs used on old tasks would bleed through the matrix into the new one. And of course the ones who thought multiple people using the same TRN on the same task would get quantumly entangled or something.

Can't please all the people all the time.

I think it's silly though. Viewer intent/belief rules the day IMO. I also believe everyone should view or not view whatever and however they want. So I wish you the best.


LD

[PatMcDonald]

The whole point of the tag is to make an even playing field. It's a tool that keeps everybody honest and balanced. Not necessary? Perhaps not for individual tasks but the proof of the pudding is in the eating. Science is supposed to be objective and I would appear to show bias on this subject SO...

... I suggest the Dojo tests the new multi-tag technique for a few tasks and allows comparisons of the overall results to the previous mission single tag method to see if there is any difference in terms of viewer accuracy.

If there isn't, then revert to the old system, because the new system is itself a target that could be used to exploit YOU.

Does that sound like a fair proposition?

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