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[BigRed333]

Hi Everybody:  A lot of people wonder how to tell an accurate perception from “just imagination”.  Something that you may find helpful in developing your accuracy is to go as far out as possible with your imagination, just like you did when you were a child.  If you work with children, a great exercise is to pretend you are a wizard with a magic wand who can turn them IMMEDIATELY into whatever you and your wand say – and quickly.  So now tell them, “Now you are a frog.  Now you are a dog.  Now you are a washing machine.  Now you are a book.”  You can imagine that you’ll get some amazing responses, and you will see that children get a good sense of things in a very holistic…I don’t know if that’s a good word…whole..kind of way,  and so should you.  You guys know what I mean.  So now do this yourself.  You can start with rugs and walls.  Imagine you are in a plush rug.  Imagine you are inside cotton sheets.  Imagine you are in a brick wall.  Imagine you are in a computer.  Make a list of things to go into, and go in – rapidly (rapidly is very important as you will see).  First you may feel self conscious and it will feel like you are “making things up”, but then that will start letting up, and it will definitely help your remote viewing as you start to see that when you need to focus on an article of clothing for instance, you suddenly sense yourself in an ocean of dark blue stripes and maroonish red, then ask youself to pull out ten feet and perceive that the blue and red are in square patterns (plaid shirt).  It will still feel like you are “making it up” during session, but then you will see that your perceptions were accurate!  Sensory practice in the “real world” really translates to accurate perceptions during viewing, in my opinion. I hope it helps your viewing also, have fun -Mary

[Loraine]

... maybe one can consciously come full (mobius) circle via imagination to discover intuition, I don't know, but why not cut to the chase? Rather read a good dictionary (or whatever) to extend vocabulary without the risks of bigging up your imaginative faculties and start RV as you need to go on with RV by disabling your imagination to allow intuition more scope.

Seems to me that doing as you suggest doesn't correspond to the mind set required for RV. I don't get how practising thinking about series of knowns prepares for remote viewing unknowns. How can practising 'making up stuff' about knowns possibly assist with avoiding 'making up stuff' about unknowns in RV? How could 'making stuff up' ever enhance not making stuff up?

Intuition always seemed diametrically opposite to imagination as I perceived our ability options, so It was no surprise to me to hear analysis of the Japanese word 'SoZo' describing the subtle difference between imagination and intuition on the first day of my RV training. Imagination is consciously describing a new idea/unknown rationally from what you already know and remember, a faculty which negates remote viewing. Intuition is to spontaneously realise an accurate description of a new idea/unknown 'from' non-local abstracts.

[BigRed333]

Hi Loraine: My exercises are based on ones I and some friends use and they are working well.  Admitteldy, this is only so far in my viewing career....maybe as you suggest I am going in a wrong direction and fooling myself, lol, I guess we'll see   I feel this work is ultimately trial and error if one is honest. But I don't believe that I am fooling myself, from what I am seeing so far...displacement and other rv inaccuracy mysteries remain unsolved as of this writing...and I thought the forum was for the purpose of sharing ideas and suggestions.  I thought it was a given that folks can take or leave my exercises, for sure   ...but I am sharing real experiences...I would never waste people's time suggesting exercises that I have not done myself and seen others do with succcess.  Not sure what else to say...I don't know why these exercises work, but they do seem to so far - I am doing research on why I believe it works...I guess we will see, and time will tell   -Alll the best, Mary

[Daz]

I feel we must try all things especially those that seem to 'pull us'. And then decide what does and doesn't work for us - we are all unique, all different and different things work for us all.

On another note im not convinced intuition is removed form imagination. intuition and creativity, I believe all bubble up form the same place - inspiration in one can be the same for both. Its also why Ingo used ART as the core of CRV, because he also realized that imagination/inspiration/creativity - was connected to intuition.

thank you both for sharing.

Daz

[katzenhai2]

I've done that a lot of time in the past with sometimes surprising "perceptions" in the world around me. But it never helped me to get more accurate results. Instead I suspect it hindered my learning process and draw me into many AI reactions and AOL-Drives in CRV sessions.

[PatMcDonald]

I've done that a lot of time in the past with sometimes surprising "perceptions" in the world around me. But it never helped me to get more accurate results. Instead I suspect it hindered my learning process and draw me into many AI reactions and AOL-Drives in CRV sessions.

Well, the times we get things wrong are the most useful for training - we can start to learn about the things we can't detect or see, or have problems getting accurate information from. Stage 2 is often the "like" stage - "it's like, a swimming pool, but it's not a swimming pool". Getting similar sensations, and relaxing and just feeling what the edges and dimensions are (in terms of description, emotion, non physical as well as physical side).

To be quite frank about this... generally a young male viewer will produce quite a bit more output than female.

The females TEND to be better at producing consistent information. But the differences are minimal - typically less than 5%.

That's horribly stereotyping and very sexist. But if you think of gender as being so basic it makes certain subject more "attractive" or "repulsive" to an individual, then you can see why it might make a fundamental difference between male and female viewers.

And with a name like "Mary" I'm pretty confident that what you are looking for is re-assurance - which is another feminine trait. But my no means EXCLUSIVELY feminine.

The vast majority of humans show a mixture of masculine and feminine traits. Learning not to be self conscious, to just be yourself, is a fundamental part of adulthood and maturity.

And yes I've had issues with it too. If you don't, you must be in some way either unusually enlightened or for some reason self deluding on logic (which can be a defence mechanism related to past harm).

People start at different levels of familiriaty, with any skill. Well, it's not where you start - it's where you FINISH. If you want skills and experience, then viewing is good.

BUT, letting other people look at your session data is helpful. Sometimes people can be very cruel, like a parent who taunts their child over home work.

Sometimes people can really step in and notice patterns that don't help the viewer. This is where analysts earn their keep - having an authenticated record, by an independent, of 100s of sessions can show the viewer that they are much better than they think they might be. Or not as good as they think they might be for those who think they are somehow "superior" veiwers. It's a superhuman skill anyway, so how could their be an elite?

TIP: If you want to "zero" back on the target, get a new impression, have another taste... take a few deep breaths to relax. Then, repeat the co-ordinates, written or not. Then record what you "feel" as part of I-A-B.

That's the most fundamental difference on getting more accurate information. Some people don't learn to do that and can only produce so much session data because they cannot clear their mind any more and get a fresh contact.

In my opinion.

[BigRed333]

Hi Katz, I agree with Pat that it would be great to see the sessions you referred to with the multiple AIs and AOL drive, and how you saw the exercises as having caused contributed to same.

I won’t be replying to any emails for awhile, fyi, very busy, but I hope you are all having fun with the exercises and with your viewing  -All the best, Mary  

[penny]

Mary,

Interesting, your idea of entering (expanding?) into physical objects. In my own RI experimentations I switched from expanding mind to expanding body - the goal being tangible experience of oneness or wholeness. The results of this switch were extreme and enlightening giving me the distinct impression that all consciousness is one unified body (physical) entified with (the) one body mind. ie- expanding body created an automatic expansion of mind, and an incredible rapport for RI

[penny]

Older students in my ashram are learning the very powerfull "As If" technique. In time this 'imagining' becomes the real, the reality. ie: immersion with the soul, fusion of higher and lower light bodies and so on. I think also that RV uses intuition in a practical way yet not an ultimate way because in its truest sense intuition is conscious creation. Intuition is not just a faculty, eventually it can supercede mind. Ingo Swann says alot about it,

[katzenhai2]

It was long before my remote viewing time. Now after seven years and  >900+ Sessions I can't show you exact examples. It is more a subjective experience after having a hard time to learn RV and I'm sure it had to do with my (wrong) exercises as BigRed333 decribed.

But what didn't worked for me can work for you.

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