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[penny]

Is it likely that there will be a RV project that is intentionally creative in relation to the perceptions of the viewers. ie: a group of viewers whose mind set is that "perception is creative" ?. A projective mind set. Also a "RVing, creating a positive future event" project (or the climate for a positive event) most likely this does not fit with RV 

[Tunde]

Is it likely that there will be a RV project that is intentionally creative in relation to the perceptions of the viewers. ie: a group of viewers whose mind set is that "perception is creative" ?. A projective mind set. Also a "RVing, creating a positive future event" project (or the climate for a positive event) most likely this does not fit with RV 

Interesting concept can you elaborate further ? Sounds like your referring to RI rather than RV.
As far as creating a desired future I think this can be done in a retro type of way if you subscribe to the notion everything is happening at the same time. Past present and future working simultaneously as well as parallel to multiple realities. I see no reason why this could not be incorporated into an in-protocol RV project that includes verifiable feedback.

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[penny]

Thanks for your ideas and for reminding me that the mind set of creative/potential is already in place in the philisophical foundations of RV.  I thought something like an adapted version of the "Cycle of Conferences Project". This is a worldwide group endeavour involving scientifically trained esotericists projecting 'magnetic' (positive) seed thoughts into the specified conference/council to help spiritually enlighten the atmosphere of the various international conferences and councils. Our current focus is the "Third Peoples Health Assembly" july 6-11 Cape Town South Africa, Archive projects include, "Geneva Accord, G20 Seoul Summit, Earth Stewardship".. (archives http://lucis.typepad.com/)

For an RV adaption, an RV project, the focus could be, To find, (within the future conference or event) locate the positive seed, nucleus, be it person, idea or event/activity within or connected to or eventuating from the ?conference.  A positive outcome may result as a side effect from the 'discovery' of the 'positive nucleus' by the group or individual as it is selected from the multiple possibilities and enlivened, (given life) subjectively. This positive seed/nucleus will be locatable having characteristic discernable differences, mood, feeling etc. This seed theoretically will expand of its own volition through natural forces and processes,( ie positive is always dominant, entraining.) this should widen the aprture for.. the good. I actually think you could probably work this idea out better than I can, re retro ideas.

[penny]

Feedback, for the above idea might come from analysing 'post' conference commentaries regarding new initiatives, proposals, alliances, philosophies and leaders. The sought- for feedback characteristics should show themselves as all these things will have a discernable tone and flavour. The commentaries or links to them should be available on or through the un site. in that scenario. Perhaps the only place for 'creation' in RV is passive. In expectation, acceptance and realisation, of the process and its effects, just not  willfully intentional use.

[Daz]

Guys n Gals,
i split this topic out because Id like to see where you take it but it also isn't really CRV specific.

all the best...
Daz

[Loraine]

Guys n Gals,
i split this topic out because Id like to see where you take it but it also isn't really CRV specific.

all the best...
Daz

Maybe some (leading lights) have progressed beyond CRV already. I admit my grasp on reality hinges on that assumption and there's plenty of others sharing it perceivable to me out there, in the abstract eternal moment. Then again, most would tell you I'm not sane. 

[Daz]

Maybe some (leading lights) have progressed beyond CRV already. I admit my grasp on reality hinges on that assumption and there's plenty of others sharing it perceivable to me out there, in the abstract eternal moment. Then again, most would tell you I'm not sane. 

Loraine, its irrelevant really - the topic of the forum is manly CRV.
When it starts to digress then it would be better served elsewhere. its not a method war.

RV or CRV or any Rv isn't the be all and end all -there are lots of flaws within RV of any method - there again there are lots of flaws in other PSI methods. In the end it isn't the tool you use its how you use it.

Daz

[Loraine]

RV is the be all and end all to me. As a non-faith based teachable skill it's no more mysterious than becoming literate (unlike other psi) so can't be so easily dismissed as subjective, rehearsed or contrived. Means that any intelligent person can't reasonably deny any evidence presented. Shall hush now.

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