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Daz Smith
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« on: February 01, 2013, 09:45:50 AM »

I'm sorry to say that after being ill for some time Ingo Swann left us early this morning for new adventures.
Please keep him in your thoughts and prayers and his family at this time.

Selfishly I will miss him greatly.

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« Reply #1 on: February 01, 2013, 09:50:44 AM »

A big loss to our community...treasure the moments.

I hope we will be able to see the DVD soon, that was made via the guys at IRVA.

Onward to the great Matrix in the sky..for Ingo. (salutes)

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« Reply #2 on: February 01, 2013, 02:57:51 PM »


Hi Daz,

Sorry to hear that ... He will be a great loss to the RV community alright.
He did marvellous work to validate RV over the years.
I am sure his name will be remebered for a long time.

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« Reply #3 on: February 01, 2013, 03:07:59 PM »

Now he can truly become a legend.

Have fun Ingo. I hear the afterlife is a big party.

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« Reply #4 on: February 01, 2013, 03:16:55 PM »

All,

Very sad news indeed....I Just wish i could have known him as you did Daz .... but a big part of him is with you and those he has met throughout his life, and for those whom have not had that pleasure will surely learn from those he has touched, and though any memories of him by other means, to carry on his legacy and have the world realise this was a very very special human being.

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« Reply #5 on: February 01, 2013, 05:14:58 PM »


The day we all dreaded....RIP Ingo You will be missed

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« Reply #6 on: February 03, 2013, 06:41:55 PM »

In case folks are in the mood to read more about Ingo - aside from Daz's great link - this is a google search string that finds the hits on his name on the dojopsi sites (mostly this forum). 

http://www.google.com/cse?cx=004949091310619201526%3Abjenlzogfp4&ie=UTF-8&q=ingo+swann&sa=Search&siteurl=127.0.0.1%3A8500%2Fdojopsi.com%2Ftkr%2Frv%2Fstaff%2Findex.cfm&ref=127.0.0.1%3A8500%2Fdojopsi.com%2Ftkr%2Frv%2F_2012d_landing.cfm%3FM%3D0%26SS%3D0%26tn%3D%26id%3D0%26CFID%3D10403%26CFTOKEN%3D7de5b23d0dd1745b-2248112E-B4B1-10A0-89D35F01171F26ED%26jsessionid%3D843049e07aebe6e727c139325634f656d858&ss=1331j262919j10#gsc.tab=0&gsc.q=ingo%20swann&gsc.page=1
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« Reply #7 on: February 05, 2013, 10:57:30 AM »

I cannot believe this!!!   Zero respect!!

Quote frome Aaron Hanson on FB


Ingo Swan is now dead?

Beyond the fact that I am a remote viewer following his rudimentary work, this man was of another generation with almost nothing in common with me.

Like many of the other armchair remote viewers out there, he talked, experimented, and wrote books. There is nothing wrong with this although if one so forcefully claims that psychic functioning is possible, I believe that it should be clearly demonstrated in a public manner. Furthermore, there should be no question as to the validity of the results, etc.

Has anyone actually seen his work first hand in terms of a public challenge?

Anyone?
 
For example, Ingo was directly challenged to view what was inside of a box on a David Letterman Show. Ingo refused the challenge describing it as "bad energy...".

Turning down a challenge before millions of captivated viewers is far worse than failing altogether. For example, no one can dispute the continued success of Silvia Browne after failing a public challenge on Larry King Live. The fact that she took the challenge with conviction and openly stood up to the onslaught of criticism only added to her fame, notoriety, and financial success.

No matter what other remote viewers privately tell you, playing it safe is not the best strategy for success. For me, true success is measured by one's ability to withstand failure.

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« Reply #8 on: February 05, 2013, 04:44:41 PM »

qell thats nothing - on facebook Stephan Schwartz is quoting ed may saying this:


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Daz’ claim prompted me to settle this issue once and for all. Because I was not part of SRI, although I knew and worked with most of the SRI people, I did not have first hand knowledge from which to respond. So I wrote Hal and Ed May. Russell had left the program in 1982.

Hal chose not to make any comment in defense of the paper. Ed responded by sending me an extract from his forthcoming book on the program, giving me permission to quote it: “The concept behind Ingo’s remote viewing training idea was based upon one very sound scientific principle and, in addition, an often-heard anecdotal concept. Many people are aware of B.F. Skinner and his behavioral ideas in psychology. As an example a pigeon can be trained to press a lever to get food by rewarding it with food pellets every time it may have randomly bumped into a lever. Over time, the bird recognizes what it is necessary to do to get the food. An extension of this basic idea is called Operant conditioning…. One necessary aspect of operant conditioning in biofeedback, for example, is that the reward follows rapidly after the desired behavior. Ingo latched on to this idea first by breaking the well-known and sacrosanct requirement when doing experiments that they must be conducted under double-blind conditions. In the context of an ESP trial, no one who knows anything about the ESP target may have any interaction whatsoever with the psychic. This idea is true for all laboratory studies and for the beginning of all operational uses of ESP – though depending upon the circumstances, it may be useful to begin to break this rule in operations but for very proscribed reasons. Ingo, of course, knew this as well as did the SRI project management.

“However, they made the decision to violate the double-blind requirements with a variation of the tired and false argument that ‘the ends justify the means.’ So in the vast majority of training sessions where Ingo took on the role of trainer, he was looking at the target photograph and the trainee was sitting across a table from him. Professor (Emeritus) Robert Rosenthal, the renowned psychologist from Harvard University, and others have amply demonstrated the power of nonverbal communication. In fact, if someone who effectively expresses ideas nonverbally is paired with someone who is equally good at understanding others who communicate that way, then that form of communication may surpass normal verbal communications. It can certainly seem psychic.

“Going the way Ingo proceeded makes it a major disaster.”

May, then, added: “There were serious problems with regard to Ingo’s RV training not the least of which it was soundly rejected by all the main-line people at that time. In addition, without almost any exceptions, his “trained” Army people produced no intelligence for the Ft. Meade Unit. Almost all of it was obtained by non-Ingo-trained people.” By which I think he means people like Joe McMoneagle.
All this and Ingo isnt even buried yet.

I Already responded with the first document i came across from the Star Gate archive that showed ion the very first operational CRV test that they produced data that the intel client found of use - but alas it all falls on deaf ears.

No respect and honor out there at all.
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I must not fear. Fear is the mind-killer.
Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration.
I will face my fear.
I will permit it to pass over me and through me.
And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path.
Where the fear has gone there will be nothing.
Only I will remain.
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« Reply #9 on: February 05, 2013, 05:28:34 PM »

Were there others non-Ingo-trained-people than McMoneagle??
All others were trained by people in the unit which were trained by Ingo... and they have known what the photo was in training.

The more I read of Ed May, his articles etc. the more I get sceptical about his intentions... and yes, he is in for the money - he has a business with RV... as all the method trainers around. So his words are no more legit than that of others in this business.
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