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Author Topic: Target "atmosphere" as a clue?  (Read 536 times)
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« on: July 29, 2003, 06:25:25 PM »


Re: choosing an integrating scenario

Thanks for all these great pieces of advice, guys! I think in the end it's just something that happens organically, an integration of qualia and symbolism which is far more complex than our conscious schemes would allow. As with ideogram vocabularies, these rules can probably be referred to when literally stuck, but most of the time the dialogue with the subconscious goes on too fast for deliberate choices - something feels right, a decision is made, and you're not even aware of it. And no correspondence, no law is ever absolute - so I guess what we should develop is an extensive vocabulary of instinctual "ineffables" to recognize, rather than rules to remember.

By the way, what if we tried this exercise online - do a target, post our individual data, but also try to describe something I'm not sure I've seen before - the "atmosphere" at the target (such as bright light/shadowy/artificial light/indoors/under water/inside matter/"not on earth"/conceptual/strongly emotional, etc) in order to fixate more explicitly the "feeling" one develops for the target.  I don't know why, but I seem to get the specific lighting of the place quite often, so I got to thinking that this might come in useful to try to differentiate specifically between different scenarios... Because while scale becomes totally relative in RV (see building versus phone jack analogy) the light/atmosphere of the target might impose certain restrictions or become recognizable with some training...

then again, I'm sure this must be covered somewhere in the many categories of emotional/aesthetic impact of CRV ;-)

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« Reply #1 on: July 31, 2003, 12:50:20 PM »

Hi Lian,

What you're talking about could loosely be matched to what is called "ambience" in common remote viewing terms.  The overall feeling of the target environment.

The ambience is a big part of data, even in the first part of a session.  Having a feeling the target is wide, open, expansive, is different than having a feeling the target is cluttered, chaotic and cramped.  This often leads to data, which may or may not be accurate, e.g., the open ambience may get data like "big sky" and the feedback might indeed have that but ya know, how much does that really help as data, LOL.  

Or the other example, may be interpreted as "busy" or "messy" when really neither of those terms are exactly correct in an objective sense, but the ambience of what was in the target provided a feeling which the viewer is trying to flesh out.

Ambience is pretty important, but I think attempting to describe just certain aspects of a target would end up in a 'forced choice' situation for the viewer, and in the end that has nearly always proved to be less accurate than free-response RV.

Just my thoughts.

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