| Archive Name | RV Oasis / PJRV |
| Archive Source | Yahoo Groups |
| Source Location | http://groups.yahoo.com/group/pjrv/ |
| Source Options | Source & messages still online but group is in indefinite stasis. |
| Source Owner | Palyne PJ Gaenir |
| Archive Format | plain text (.txt) with an .html wrapper. Also bundled in larger PDFs. |
| Archive Location | http://www.firedocs.com/pjrv/ and http://www.dojopsi.info/pjrv/ |
| Archivist | PJ Gaenir |
| Archive Options | Visit the archive location at the Dojo Psi for text search options. |
| Archive Inclusions | Message content from first to last post: July 8, 2002 to August 2004. |
| Archive Exclusions | none |
| Archive Caveats | Yahoo's threading is imperfect. It separates the first post from all those beginning with "Re:" and other problems. So, while things are as "by topic" as I could make them, there are some mixed dates in a topic thread, and sometimes multiple topics that perhaps should have been combined. |
| Archive Series | Messages 1 to 4,035 (dated from inception at July 8, 2002 to a cut-off point of August 16, 2004). |
| Archive Blocks | As this list was only open briefly (about two years), this allowed it to be archived by TOPIC, separately for longer threads, and then archived more in 'bulk' for shorter threads, but still arranged inside by topic. Blocked in larger files for convenience as well. |
The RV OASIS / PJRV Discussion Group Archives: An Official Intro (by PJ Gaenir):
The RV Oasis / PJRV list was established in July of 1998 by myself when I "re-entered the internet remote viewing field" after a four year haitus. (I had left July 4, 1998; my previous lists, VWR and PSI, dumped most of their membership into the StarGate list during my absence.) I made it mostly invitation-based but allowed requests. I insisted on some posting once per 90 days or members would be unsubscribed. I did everything I could to keep the list as tiny as possible, so members would feel more comfortable to share. This included making note on the group info that it was only for intermediate or better viewers, and sending most all applicants to other lists (such as StarGate or FarView) instead. When it closed it had around 95 members, which was the smallest I could seem to keep it. Please see also The STARGATE Discussion Group Archives: An UNofficial Intro (by PJ Gaenir).
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The RV OASIS / PJRV Discussion Group Archives: An Unofficial Intro (by PJ Gaenir):
I couldn't have asked for a better collection of creative and intelligent viewers to hang around and talk with as I had on this list. To a great degree I did them a disservice by being severely overworked during that period and unable to moderate in a timely manner, yet still insisting on moderation so that posts would be clean, digests would be nicely readable, and archives would possible with half the work. But the people were great, and many of the discussions were fascinating. We had some sessions, some experiments, and some talk about stuff that nobody else on the web would touch for being un-PC (such as the end of Larger Universe, and RetroTasking). All in all it makes a good archive.
This was a good example, though, of trying to walk in a direction nobody else much wants to go toward. I griped about the lack of "experiential" posts. I specifically wanted a list that was geared to hands-on experiential discussion. Meaning: talk about methods, talk about theories, talk about session experience, talk about spontaneous experience, essentially, a small list for viewers who VIEW, as opposed to the people who just sit around the internet and talk about it (or about each other!).
Although most of the active people on the list were also active viewers or did something related to psi, and although many of them could wax on poetically to me in email with session talk, interesting experiences and theories about it all, getting the same people to say anything on an open list was another story. A few did, and those are some of the neatest posts in the archives. But for the most part, people simply didn't want to share. Not only did most feel the group was too large (despite my efforts to keep it small), but there were years of personal politics in the online field, so a good number of participants wouldn't say anything "that other person" would see. The online RV field was so cliquish it was nearly impossible to have any real conversation that involved a good cross-section of perspectives and methods.
In part because I saw this problem in the online field and experienced it firsthand on this list, I started on a project deliberately designed to bring viewers of different methods, theories, backgrounds, etc. together in one place for not only discussion but hands-on viewing. That came to be in 2004, the Ten Thousand Roads Remote Viewing and Dowsing Project (aka "TKR"). As my time went more to making that a success, I dropped out of much participation in the RV Oasis / PJRV list. Because the list was severely "focused" for "remote viewing and psi experience," if I wasn't participating it tended to lay calmly until I returned. As for TKR, I had initially begun making a groups feature, but after seeing the cliquish politics in the field I instead decided to start with all the aspects that would bring people together, first, so first we opened a big discussion forum, and then later some hands-on viewing studios and looki-loo galleries.
This list had one series of interviews with viewer Joseph McMoneagle which we finished; they posted on Firedocs. I had another long interview done but for a few last 'tidying up' items with viewer Mel Riley. I had about half an email interview done with scientist Dr. Edwin May. I pretty much canceled an interview I had scheduled with viewer Bill Ray due to his work-related travel. I followed up several times but he was said to be maybe shipping out to a war zone soon so I dropped that. Dr. May got weary of answering questions after awhile, as our group had some great critical thinkers who knew research and had quite a few for him, so I put off finishing that until some later time I hoped to convince him to give us more of his valuable time. Mel was busy when I kept trying to follow up; I will probably bug him to help me finish the couple tiny things remaining, and whether he does or not, put out his interview and the partial for Dr. May by end of this year (2006). We also had PJRV interviews lined up with scientist Dr. Charles Tart and viewer Paul Smith, neither of which ever got to the interview stage due to my dropping most all my pjrv-list involvement. My work was easily 100 hours/wk at that time, on top of trying to spend much time working on software and communication inside TKR, and I just didn't have the resources; thanks to chronic sleep deprivation, I lacked as much in attention, memory and concern about it as I did 'time'.
In the end, what I learned from this list is that most viewers will probably not share personal "experiential" stuff, whether in-session or spontaneous psi or dreams or whatever, unless the group is drastically smaller; probably not more than 18 at the most, I would guess. My private projects (Dojo Psi and PJRV) aside from TKR (which is managed mostly by others) will be geared toward very small groups as a result.
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