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#383?
 	From: "Elizabeth Hambrook" 
Date: Sun Feb 1, ?004 1?:19 am
Subject: Re: ARV reply to Liz 	ozblueriver

  	  	

> Glyn wrote:
   > >  I think it may be lack of focus by the viewer that
   > > causes the displacement;

   I'd have to agree with this. I'm the one setting myself up to find the target.
I'm the one in control of what I'm doing, so if I get something other than the
target I would be the one to blame.

   I like to think I'm the sole driver of my RV sessions. -g-

   cheers Liz

	
#3839
 	From: Bill Pendragon 
Date: Sun Feb 1, ?004 ?:54 am
Subject: Re: ARV reply to Liz 	docsavagebill

  	  	

Hi Liz,

So soon after you and Glyn satisfied yourselves that
retrotasking seemed a strong possibility.. you've
changed your minds?

Bill

--- Elizabeth Hambrook  wrote:
>   > Glyn wrote:
>   > >  I think it may be lack of focus by the viewer
> that
>   > > causes the displacement;
>
>   I'd have to agree with this. I'm the one setting
> myself up to find the target. I'm the one in control
> of what I'm doing, so if I get something other than
> the target I would be the one to blame.
>
>   I like to think I'm the sole driver of my RV
> sessions. -g-

	
#3848
 	From: "Elizabeth Hambrook" 
Date: Mon Feb ?, ?004 1?:00 am
Subject: Re: ARV reply to Liz 	ozblueriver

  	  	

>  < retrotasking seemed a strong possibility.. you've
> changed your minds?>>

Hi Bill,

at this point I'm not 100% sure that retro tasking works. It definatley doesn't
work all the time. I want to compare the RT results with the results we got from
just choosing random words. RT may work slightly better than the RW but not by
much. I'll get back to you on the results of that. (not that they are conclusive
evidence? ).

But........ if RT does work I still think some part of me would allow that to
happen. When Glyn and I did the RT I payed a lot of attention to my attitude
towards each session. At first I was willing to go along with RT and for those
first couple of sessions it did seem to work. Then I stuck my heals in and
decided I didn't want it to work and it didn't. So I do believe (at this point? )
that my own attitude plays a part in wether or not RT would work any more on my
sessions.

If we are all linked there is some part of me that is aware of what is being RT.
I feel that I have it within me to make a choice on wether or not I go along
with it. And now I choose not to.

Now that I feel determined not to allow my sessions to be RT why don't you
choose to RT one and we'll see what happens. You can take your pick if you like.
I'd be interested to see what happened. I'll shout you a beer if you can. (and
give it to you when you come to Oz for a visit. LOL? )

cheers
Liz
PS...... RT results must be above chance.

	
#3853
 	From: "Glyn" 
Date: Tue Feb 3, ?004 1:14 pm
Subject: RE: ARV reply to Liz 	glynis5799

  	  	

Hi Bill and Liz,

Bill said..
>  < retrotasking seemed a strong possibility.. you've
> changed your minds?>>

at this point I'm not 100% sure that retro tasking works. It definatley doesn't
work all the time. I want to compare the RT results with the results we got from
just choosing random words. RT may work slightly better than the RW but not by
much. I'll get back to you on the results of that. (not that they are conclusive
evidence? ).

I  think it works, but only seems to under certain conditions, and we need more
experiments using only those conditions...to see if we can get better results.
Yes, it will be interesting comparing the results of the two experiments as
well.  I am still working on the summary of RT.
  ...................................
> Now that I feel determined not to allow my sessions to
> be RT why don't you choose to RT one and we'll see what
> happens. You can take your pick if you like.
> I'd be interested to see what happened.

Mmmm, yes...take your pick of the RT# ones....now that would be interesting :-? )
  ......................................

> I'll shout you a beer if you can. (and give it to you when
> you come to Oz for a visit. LOL

That's not fair Liz...LOL!!

> PS...... RT results must be above chance.

And that of course is one of the most difficult things of all to determine, in
my book..

Regards,
Glyn