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#268 
	From: "nita...ulse.com" 
Date: Mon Jul 29, 2002 1:52 pm
Subject: Re: Re: some current research 	nitahickok
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Hi Lyn
    If you are on a winning streak and they change dealers then quit playing
when it comes to craps. My Uncle Ping used to be what is called a luck
breaker at the craps tables in the Flamingo.
    I don't know if it was 6ft 6" inches of bald scarred serious looking
person or the fact that he could affect dice. He always claimed that he
could make them land anyway he wanted them too. He demonstrated a lot of
times when I was a teenager and was really good at knowing which ones would
come up. This was with other people throwing the dice and bringing their own
dice.
    I don't know if the new modernized casinos do this anymore but I doubt
they would quit it if it worked.
    Nita
Half the spiritual life consists in remembering what we are up against and
where we are going.
Ayya Khema "When the Iron Eagle Flies."

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#229 
	From: Richard Krankoski 
Date: Fri Jul 26, 2002 9:19 pm
Subject: some current research 	Rich_crv
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This note was blocked at Star Gate but maybe some here are interested in
current events. I got the post from another discussion group.

Rich

The Koestler website has describes three prediction studies.
Does anyone know Dr Fiona Steinkamp?

Rich


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Scientists testing psychics' powers to predict the future

Posted By: Mike F.
Date: Sunday, 21 July 2002, at 7:28 a.m.

Scientists testing psychics' powers to predict the future

Psychics are taking part in an experiment to find out if some people
really can predict the future.

Edinburgh University researchers are testing 140 volunteers who claim
they've had psychic experiences.

Scotland on Sunday says they'll be asked to visualise a picture on a
random postcard before it is sent to their home.

Dr Fiona Steinkamp of the university's Koestler Parapsychology Unit said:
"At the moment, we are trying to find out if people
can actually get an impression of the future.

"If this study proves successful, it would mean we'd be able to predict
disasters such as plane crashes and accidents. You might even be able to win the
Lotto."

Volunteers will be isolated and have to listen to white noise for 15
minutes while trying to visualise a picture that will be sent to
them in the post. The fuzzy noise is used to stop the volunteers being
distracted.

They will then be shown four pictures and will be asked to choose the one
that most closely resembles the vision they had.

Two days later, a picture will be picked randomly with the help of a
computer and it will be sent to their homes. Dr Steinkamp
admits there is an element of chance to the experiment.

"What we need is a significant number of volunteers to pick the correct
picture before we can eliminate the possibility of chance," she said.

David Concar, deputy editor of New Scientist magazine, told the paper: "If
we, as a species, really could do this, we would surely know about it by now.
There is no way this study can impose on us an ability that we simply do not
have."

Story filed: 10:25 Sunday 21st July 2002
~Ananova

Koestler Parapsychology Unit:
http://moebius.psy.ed.ac.uk/

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Moderator's Note: Sure.  Fiona was chairman of the Parapsychological Association
Annual Convention a couple years ago, she's a Ph.D. now.  She's had a page on
Parapsychology Links (pro and con) for many years (science based stuff mostly). 
Koestler at this point is doing the bulk of legit psi research in the Western
world.  I can't imagine star gate blocking this post though, it is innocuous,
and their moderation is very relaxed compared to mine! -- And this isn't
experiential (exactly) but I make exceptions for science. -- PJ

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#267 
	From: Lyn Buchanan 
Date: Mon Jul 29, 2002 11:52 am
Subject: Re: some current research 	lynbuchanan2000
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At 10:26 PM 7/27/2002 +0000, Rich wrote:
>The Koestler website has describes three prediction studies.
>Does anyone know Dr Fiona Steinkamp?

Very respectable and professional researcher.

>Scotland on Sunday says they'll be asked to visualise a picture on a
>random postcard before it is sent to their home.

The study will probably show nominal results, very close to chance if the
post card selection is made after the predictive session, because it will
deal with a still-random future.  If the post card selection is made before
the predictive session, the future will be set and scores will more than
likely be much higher.  I say "probably" and "more than likely" because the
fact that people say they have had a psychic event some tine in their lives
doesn't mean they have, and it certainly doesn't mean that they are ready
for prime-time laboratory studies, by any means.  Don't look for them to
immediately go out and "win the lottery".

Another person and I spent last week in casinos in Nevada doing a study on
short-term prediction of pseudo-random futures.  I say "pseudo-random"
because we got a thorough education by one of the top dealerst, who showed
us that no casino game (with the exception of craps, he says) is free of
"controlling influence" by the dealer, and showed us how to know when the
dealer will use his/her "controlling influence", how to spot it, and how to
predict (logically) what it will be.

But, for the times when the dealer leaves the game to chance, we came up
with some very interesting facts and a very surprising technique which
indicate that the future might be predicted with a very high degree of
probability in ultra-short-term predictions.

  From these findings, we devised a tentative (have to thoroughly test it
first) training plan to sensitize a person under ultra-short-term
conditions and, as the person becomes more and more sensitive to future
signals, lengthen the prediction time until a threshold is reached, if one
exists.

We also conducted a short test series of "prediction plus influence" trials
which also seemed to indicate there is also something worth looking into
along those lines.

Hopefully, there will be time to do some more in-depth studies of what we
found.

Lyn Buchanan, Problems Solutions Innovations
37 Camino Ranchitos, Alamogordo, NM 88310
Ph: 505-437-8285  Web site: http://www.crviewer.com

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#269 
	From: Bill Pendragon 
Date: Mon Jul 29, 2002 5:40 pm
Subject: Re: Re: some current research 	docsavagebill
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Hi Lyn,

So please tell us more. What were your results that
worked? Was there a difference if you wagered money??

What was the method you used?

Best Regards,

Bill