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#251 
	From: "Sharon Webb" 
Date: Sun Jul 28, 2002 11:40 am
Subject: Um...do I belong here? 	sharwebb_30512
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Hi,

I just joined this list a few days ago, and now I'm wondering if I belong here.

All my RV training was Silva.  It was pretty extensive, and I've done police
cases, healings, etc., using Silva techniques, but I lack the specific training
and vocabulary of CRV.  And Silva training is more people/animal/living organism
- oriented, I think.  Although I can key in on objects and locales, I'm more
drawn to people or living beings as targets.

I'll hang in there a bit longer though.  Don't want to jump to too hasty a
conclusion.

Sharon
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#258 
	From: "dennanm" 
Date: Sun Jul 28, 2002 10:26 pm
Subject: Silva MC, and 'Experiential Psi' 	dennanm
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Howdy Sharon,

One reason for the subtitle (Practical Psi w/PJ Gaenir) in this group
is because it is an "experiential" list.

Some people on this list have a specific methodology they utilize.
It's true many people here are familiar with CRV.  However, others
are familiar with ERV, with HRVG's methods, with TDS's methods, and
then there is a group that have no training beyond a Joe McMoneagle
book, which I consider more than adequate if followed personally.
Some people even do scrying.

Silva Mind Control is just as valid as a "psychic methodology" as
anything else (and far as I know was around before the modern CRV).
In fact if you read some of Ingo Swann's old books, you see that
prior to developing CRV, when he was working in science, he was using
methods that sound a whole lot like some of Jose Silva's!  So, I have
no bias about this topic: I want the list to be open to people who
are sincerely interested in psychic development/usage -- I really
don't care much about the methodology.

Many of the comments about methods or data collection apply just as
well to Silva or scrying as they do to CRV or those working on what a
guy I used to know called "Home Grown RV".  Different things work for
different people, and we all tend to use acronyms we're familiar
with, I'm sorry if that makes stuff hard to follow sometimes.

I think bringing people of different "divination disciplines"
together might actually bring something of value in the join.

As far as psi goes, I tend to focus more on things like a decent
psychic protocol.  There are some factors in the practice of psychic
functioning that tend to help or hinder anybody.  To what degree
might depend on the person, or how they go about things.

The list is an intermediate list, but that doesn't mean you need to
know CRV terms, it just means it is designed to be a home for people
who are already familiar with psychic development to some degree.

I am trying to encourage people to share their past or present
experiences with psychic functioning, whether practice or ops, any
aspect of the subject -- or, to share their experiences that relate
to their psychic development personally (though these may not be
specifically about psychic sessions).

It is my belief that "personal development" -- psychological
integration, and the reconstruction of belief systems, as well as the
general skill that comes from practicing something -- is critical to
success in psi work.  So my goal for this list is more of a "whole
person" thing -- "viewer development" across the board, not just
details of this or that methodology.  For that reason, it is open to
anybody who does deliberate psi work.

The list is going private soon, and requiring occasional
participation, in my hopes that more people will share personal
experiences if they feel more 'safe' somehow.  Since so far there is
a pretty limited number who've done so.  I don't like that solution
much but I need to do something...

I actually appreciate your asking as it gave me a chance to explain
my goals for the list in some detail.

I hope you'll stay and share with us.  Personally I am really
INTERESTED in Silva's stuff, as I've heard of it and don't know much
about it except someone I knew trained in it once briefly described a
rapport technique.  Are there different techniques for acquiring
different types of data?  Is it done in altered state?

Regards,
PJ