Anyone have experience with "Hybrid-ARV"?

Mycroft

Active Member
Re: ALEX141 the best remote viewer in the world????

Daz said:
Then after all this the noob goes and moans about me and TKR on the Head Games forum about how inferior the rest of the rv world is to head Games and their loving community.
http://rvcommunity.net/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=3630

Please, please if anyone again calls me up for so called taking on people like this when they make stupid and inflammatory claims I will seriously use some language. Look and learn this is what these people are like.

Daz congrats you're 100% correct and you didn't even RV the answer! ;)

Next question, who besides myself is up to mending the fences with the ED people? Shocking isn't it? My guts are twisting a little as I write this but it is necessary. Time is up and we're moving toward the finish line.

If 2012-12-22 carries even 1/20th the effect some people are saying. Those that are PSI adept but not of your 'house' will most likely be your enemy. On the other hand even if you don't believe in all of that there is still much to be gained.

RV has been around such a short time. Wouldn't it be so much better to assume the posture of a Peoples that has been around for over 2000 years?

ref.
http://www.shaolin.com/historycontent.aspx

Did you notice "how to avoid conflict" is the only bold sentence on the entire page? How? Mute your responses to your enemy and simply refuse to receive the intended injury.

Mycroft
 

Mview

Member
Have you seen work of Dames' team? I have seen bits and pieces I haven't (there are some sketches in the abduction video). But a video is propaganda and show only what you like to show, not the reality behind it. Dames is a man I would not trust and seems to like to cheat.
Except for RVRobot which is great so far. Sad his former sessions from the beginning are not any more available. I really would like to see the progress he has made over the time and if some talent was shown in his first sessions.

I have not ever seen work from big cases and what not as those are mostly private, but I think I have seen every team member’s work in one form or another over the years, and it’s all of good stuff.

I appreciate you candor, Multi. This isn't really directed at you. If you're interested in some great examples of work in the dojo, check out this thread. Its 15 pages of awesome sessions done in there - every one of them double blind. Of course, it's in no way a collection of all the best stuff in there. Just fun sharing.
In that thread, there is some good viewing there. I like what I see.

Those sessions were good. I liked what I see.

This might seem like nonsensical rambling, but here goes:

First, I would like to add that I used to hang around the dojo and do targets from there. I do appreciate any remote viewing tools including this one for people to practice and learn together. When I was there, my work there was subpar to say the least (no one’s fault but my own most likely).

As a methods viewer though, my problems, and I will just assume it is the problems of some others as well, were that I saw a lot of sessions there (again mine included) that got passed as good work, when it was not, as if there were low standards for RV work-- I did not like that feeling. Some sessions you could not tell when the person had hit the target, full of shapes and descriptors that may have been right, and there was some debate over the tasking methods being questionable, it was hard to see the reason why the person was on or off.
Still, there were some impressive sessions that were concise and accurate.
Anyway, my feeling now is that it is probably a good tool for people to learn and practice their crafts.

Secondly, I want to add that the biggest qualms I see coming from others and sometimes myself, are that SOME members here are just ready to doubt any new RV school/methodology/idea that comes and pass it off as another teacher/remote viewer being delusional, and laugh at them into not even taking these forums seriously. This results in making TKR appear like a bunch of people who just like to complain about everything and not advance RV. I do not feel now that it is true that you people just expect the worst, and do not take RV seriously, but I feel that is perception of this forum right now.

I can understand the other side of the argument in the need for proof when someone claims a new finding. I love seeing tangible proof myself and I agree that everyone should do it. I enjoy seeing/studying people like Daz, and even the HRVG people who I see posting a lot of work for the people to see. It is good work in my opinion.

From what little I have talked with Alex, I would hate to see him end up in a bad light because he seems like a good guy to me. I also think these the attacks on Daz were wrong. I think there are some communication issues that need to be worked out so that we can all coexist.

Going back to Alex’s posts, I do not agree with the choice of those sketches. There more to RV than just sketching, and those alone are not indicative of superior experience by comparison. I would have personally liked to see written data that came with those in a higher stage as well and a really good composite of the target, and then maybe we could see any vast RV skill differences.




In the end, I do not see any need for all the fighting, really.
 

katzenhai2

Ambassador
@Multi:
Good post. But I don't think the matter here is RV skill. Thats like "my work is better than yours" or speaking in a child language: "Look, I build a better sandcastle than yours (*destroying-other-kids-sandcastle*)". ::)

Regarding new RV methodology/school: If you are speaking about Dames, he isn't new and his method isn't new either. It were already taped on the Psi-Tech Advanced videos long ago.
If you are speaking about my rants against Jaybird's new school/organisation: Its my opinion that he is not very smart and what he does sounds crazy. IMHO.

I found Alex to be the only serious guy there on the LearnRV-Forum. Open, smart and humanly. He hadn't the need of saying thinks to be in a higher position - it seems he sees everyone on the forum on the same level --> Remote Viewer. Like the people on this TKR-Forum. All other so called "professionals" take the Guru type attitude. Even David R. seemed to be 'floating over anyone'. Well, he is past now. Personally I trust Alex. Because of his personality profile.
But you must understand it's a two belief system clash. Indoctrinated by Dames. Closed minded. Secretly - to have an edge - not in the function itself of having Geofix etc but to be in a favorable position of inviolability. If he would lose that he would lose control about others. Thats his very own personality problem. Against this Forum: Open to everyone. Other people build trust into him, learned something valuable, or even worked with him. They have their 'belief' system and search for people sharing it. Thats the natural way humans work. On the other side you can't go into a forum, say "Hey, I found the holy grail, it workds" and then "but its proprietary". Sure people will ask either two thinks: Proof or more information for their own experiments. Alex hasn't shared anything of value (except for the "signature"). If you haven't something to say why say something at all?
Its like going into a trader forum and say "Hey, I found a 100% trading strategy - but its proprietary". How do you think people will react? ;)

Yes, there are methods with which learning RV seems to be easier. More controlable what you do. But first you need PEOPLE interested into RV. And this forum is like a source of those people otherwise couldn't be found. They take the topic of RV onto a new level: Social interaction!
 

Marv_Darley

New Member
Staff member
As a methods viewer though, my problems, and I will just assume it is the problems of some others as well, were that I saw a lot of sessions there (again mine included) that got passed as good work, when it was not, as if there were low standards for RV work-

Absolutely agree. I've got in trouble for stating this before but there are alot of people over at the DojoPsi o (IMHO) are simply too nice when it comes to congratulating viewers on their work or nominating them for G15 status. Encouragement is great, but it can sometimes lead to middling sessions being hailed as great examples of RV, which they're not. I worry about it because viewers like yourself will look in there sometimes and think...hang on, these sessions aren't so great at all...what are these guys on about. Seems that my worry was warranted as that's exactly what you're done lol. (And rightly so.)

I want to add that the biggest qualms I see coming from others and sometimes myself, are that SOME members here are just ready to doubt any new RV school/methodology/idea that comes and pass it off as another teacher/remote viewer being delusional,

Wrong. SOME members here simply doubt people who crop up with wild and unsubstantiated claims like being able to predict future sports outcomes with 100% accuracy or being able to pinpoint exact locations via RV to within a 'gnat's ass' or going back in time and scratching their name on a photograph taken a hundred years ago etc etc. A belief in the existence of Psi shouldn't leave one wide-mouthed and gaping at each and every claim made by this or that 'pioneer'. Our skepticism hasn't dissolved completely with the advent of learning how to view...we still require proof.

btw I flew yesterday. Just took off and flew home from work, like a bird.

What's that? You want proof? Oh you sour doubter, you. Always mocking and wanting proof. Meh to you all.

From what little I have talked with Alex, I would hate to see him end up in a bad light because he seems like a good guy to me. I also think these the attacks on Daz were wrong. I think there are some communication issues that need to be worked out so that we can all coexist.

Agreed. I am sure that Alex is indeed a nice guy; he just didn't do himself too many favours with his presentation on these boards or his follow up 'report to base' over on the Learn-RV forums. Still, I wish him well in his endeavours and hope that one day he will have me eating my hat. I'd LOVE to see 100% ARV accuracy achieved, truly I would.

Marv :)
 

Mycroft

Active Member
Marv said:
Absolutely agree. I've got in trouble for stating this before but there are alot of people over at the DojoPsi o (IMHO) are simply too nice when it comes to congratulating viewers on their work or nominating them for G15 status. Encouragement is great, but it can sometimes lead to middling sessions being hailed as great examples of RV, which they're not. I worry about it because viewers like yourself will look in there sometimes and think...hang on, these sessions aren't so great at all...what are these guys on about. Seems that my worry was warranted as that's exactly what you're done lol. (And rightly so.)

At least this time you went on to explain it was appearances you were most concerned about. ;)

My analogy to this is saying nothing is akin to a scolding, simply a muted stare that means beware.

Acknowledgment is the key, hey even when your puppy misses the carpeting but hits the linoleum isn't that an improvement? Then SHOW IT!

Yes, this behavior creates a tangled web, learned mistakes. What are the alternatives, everybody going to private sessions?

Give people their due, the ladies at the dojo know what is good and what is not. I only mention the ladies because they know the smooth from the move if you know what I mean? OK, the guys are real suckers for the schmooze.

Better to be all inclusive with 'kindness overkill' than to have some Viewers never get a notice or only hearing something critical about their sessions, because their skills or technique isn't there...yet.

As for the media or other groups, they're looking in the wrong place to see the really serious stuff anyways.

Mycroft
 

Marv_Darley

New Member
Staff member
My analogy to this is saying nothing is akin to a scolding, simply a muted stare that means beware.

There is a wide range of possible responses between 'saying nothing' and "AMAZING SESSION! G15!" ;D

You don't walk into the Louvre and see hand prints from someone's 7 year old son hanging on the wall to encourage them to paint better. Likewise with G15 and the Galleries. Encouragement is great...tempered with a little honesty now and then.

And yes, I am concerned with appearances (as well as viewer development). G15 was created to highlight the best of the best here at TKR, to provide a place to which viewers could aspire. Getting your work in G15 should be an absolute thrill, not some run-of-the-mill thrice daily occurrence.

Marv :)
 

sonny5085

where are you from (the keep) "I am from you"
MARV the G15 Police !

Says Fave on there..remove it...then you argument will have merit with me....
MY fave will not be your fave...we have diff standards...

Should it say more than one person fave.. fave is only nominated..till someone 2nds it ????
if it doesnt get a 2nd then remove it...

ARV forum..is now the G15 forum...ah..it comes to me now...
my amazement levels are easliy entertained...dang it...

Postive flow ...vs loss....if sub par statements are required please say so on your commentary
or you could just exclude commentary as that is an option on the public work

I saw one person abusing the commentary one time...to one paticular person.....
I then saw that person go to accepting no commentary...I knew this would happen
when I saw that the person had asked in commentary for it to stop...

It could be a nice option to have a block on commentary...I dont know how hard this
would be to set up in a programming mode..but to block the annoying person but
leave it open for general commentary could be useful...it was not me..haha..

If someone doesnt wish my commentary .. I willnot comment..howerver Marv..
I know you like my commentary...and your rv still sux...sorry...

ending this with a 3 to 1 odds..keeps in arv..
 

psilentone

New Member
Hi sonny, there is a way to make comments not available on your sessions if you so choose. I did it once but seemed to get lots of people who were hurt or uncomfortable or insulted so I put comments back on.
Personally I find encouragement to be an essential part of learning anything.
It is also possible that what you thought was abuse of comments was genuine in intent and not something else.
Perhaps the solution is to make something else aside from the G-15 as an option such as...1. you named it! 2. good descriptives 3. you got the animal etc so viewers have a wider array of expressing their enthusiasm.
PS sometimes enthusiam is just enthusiam
enthusiasm is a good thing
 

broosse09

New Member
Anyone have experience with "Hybrid ARV"

This is hilarious that you think enough people have a problem with my commissionership. Please, go nuts with your poll. Ill be on the edge of my seat.
 

LD

Member
Staff member
Re: Anyone have experience with "Hybrid ARV"

broosse09 said:
This is hilarious that you think enough people have a problem with my commissionership. Please, go nuts with your poll. Ill be on the edge of my seat.

Um... what?
 

katzenhai2

Ambassador
@LD:
That is a spammer. PM'ed Marv already about several people in here posting nonsense. Its an automatic script, not a real person. ;)
 

alexispoquiz

New Member
:'( I can't believe I just read through this entire thread.

It was like renting a movie with a really nice cover picture, then going home, watching through it half-way only to realize that it is a horrible.. HORRIBLE movie... but that you've already invested so much time that you might as well finish it...despite knowing how the movie was going to end and despite knowing how shitty you would feel after watching it....

If this post can save one soul from doing what I just did, it would make me feel a heckuvallot better :)

TLDR: An idiot comes to the thread makes a 100% accuracy claim... trolls...trolls... and trolls... then gets owned due to the sheer magnitude of his idiocy and his inability to produce results.
 

Marv_Darley

New Member
Staff member
It was like renting a movie with a really nice cover picture, then going home, watching through it half-way only to realize that it is a horrible.. HORRIBLE movie... but that you've already invested so much time that you might as well finish it...despite knowing how the movie was going to end and despite knowing how shitty you would feel after watching it....
;D
 

NSA

New Member
alexispoquiz said:
:'( I can't believe I just read through this entire thread.

It was like renting a movie with a really nice cover picture, then going home, watching through it half-way only to realize that it is a horrible.. HORRIBLE movie... but that you've already invested so much time that you might as well finish it...despite knowing how the movie was going to end and despite knowing how shitty you would feel after watching it....

If this post can save one soul from doing what I just did, it would make me feel a heckuvallot better :)

TLDR: An idiot comes to the thread makes a 100% accuracy claim... trolls...trolls... and trolls... then gets owned due to the sheer magnitude of his idiocy and his inability to produce results.

Alex is not an Idiot. Mistaken, yes, Idiot no. He is one of the very few who made
A significant amount of money from RV wagering. The thread is not a waste of time either, people are entitled to their opinions and encouraged to speak freely and share whatever they want without being called idiots for doing so.
 

alexispoquiz

New Member
He is one of the very few who made a significant amount of money from RV wagering. The thread is not a waste of time either, people are entitled to their opinions and encouraged to speak freely and share whatever they want without being called idiots for doing so.

Hmms... Yes you're right NSA, I apologize, I got a bit carried away... Alex is not an idiot... On a side note, my photoshopping skills are top notch, I can take a check and alter it easily... of course the check he posted might be real... It's definitely real to me... I just want to place doubt in it, for people who think posting a check is an indication of RV skills... it's hardly an indication of how Elite his RV skills is.

[This possibility came up when discussing about it with a friend who works as a supervisor in the cage of a casino]
I can also produce "real checks too" (theoretically)... I'll just withdraw $10,000 of cash in my savings acount... go up to a casino cage and exchange that cash into $10,000 worth of casino chips... play a couple $5.00 blackjack games... then plop right back to the casino cage exchange my chips for $10,000 worth of cash... Of course, sometimes you can get a check instead of cash (you will get your name "written" down though)... it's hardly an indication of how Elite his RV skills is.

Third, I have hanged around enough gamblers in my life to see some win really really huge amounts... example, dropping $10,000k bets like I drop my $10 bill... conversely I have seen those same winners lose really really huge amounts too... betting big and winning big is hardly an indication of how Elite his RV skills is.

You ask a gambler if they are "up"... more often than not. It's a yes. For all we know, he did win a really big pot... we don't know if he tried to replicate his results and ending up losing more than what he won....it's hardly an indication of how Elite his RV skills is.

It was mentioned somewhere in the thread... consistency is what matters.

Also... Lets assume he really is 100% accurate AND he can RV at will, and produce 100% accuracy any time he wants... That's cool... but if he's not willing to share. What good does that do for you and me and the rest of the world? Nothing. Absolutely nothing.

I do apologize though, I got a bit carried away.
 

NSA

New Member
alexispoquiz said:
It was mentioned somewhere in the thread... consistency is what matters.

Also... Lets assume he really is 100% accurate AND he can RV at will, and produce 100% accuracy any time he wants... That's cool... but if he's not willing to share. What good does that do for you and me and the rest of the world? Nothing. Absolutely nothing.

I do apologize though, I got a bit carried away.

Hi Alex,

You need to check out the various other ARV threads to get the full picture. Alex was obviously
wrong in making 100% accuracy claims and was rightly put straight on that however he has since
admitted that method does not work and abandoned those claims and no longer uses ARV due to
its unreliability. As for the money his team won I can confirm it was legit from other sources.

I suspect they got carried away with their initial success and wrongly believed they would be able to maintain
a consistent level of success. He was wrong. Hopefully the lesson has been learnt that RV can never
be 100% reliable all the time regardless of what method you use.

NSA
 

tbone

Active Member
Jon K said:
Quotes from Dec 2005:
…I then began keeping stats on the ORIGINS of the data...Each origin became what I call a Predictor. Understandably enough, some predictors turned out better than others. No Predictors fell below 70% accuracy. I have two Predictors that are 100% accurate - but unfortunately they don't show up very often. Most of the Individual Predictors that I now use are 80+% correct and one that shows up extremely often is 90% correct. But what's even better than Individual Predictors is the clustering of Predictors - where a ARV session yields a number of these predictors. ALMOST all of my Clustered Predictor scores are at 100%. The ones that aren't are above 90% in their accuracy.

…If you will kindly reread my previous explanation (and take it concretely) I specifically explained how I did it. (1) I do the very best crv that I can, and (2) after acquiring the data from the crv I am able to determine the location of origin of the data. If it is from the subconscious, then specifically from where in the subconscious; if from the unconscious, then specifically from where in the unconscious; if from the collective unconscious, then specifically from where in the collective unconscious. It is the locations of the origins of the data that have become my predictors - not the data itself. I really can't say anything more about it than that."

END

Where exactly are these quotes from and does anyone have some insight into what he means by them?
 

NSA

New Member
tbone said:
Jon K said:
Quotes from Dec 2005:
…I then began keeping stats on the ORIGINS of the data...Each origin became what I call a Predictor. Understandably enough, some predictors turned out better than others. No Predictors fell below 70% accuracy. I have two Predictors that are 100% accurate - but unfortunately they don't show up very often. Most of the Individual Predictors that I now use are 80+% correct and one that shows up extremely often is 90% correct. But what's even better than Individual Predictors is the clustering of Predictors - where a ARV session yields a number of these predictors. ALMOST all of my Clustered Predictor scores are at 100%. The ones that aren't are above 90% in their accuracy.

…If you will kindly reread my previous explanation (and take it concretely) I specifically explained how I did it. (1) I do the very best crv that I can, and (2) after acquiring the data from the crv I am able to determine the location of origin of the data. If it is from the subconscious, then specifically from where in the subconscious; if from the unconscious, then specifically from where in the unconscious; if from the collective unconscious, then specifically from where in the collective unconscious. It is the locations of the origins of the data that have become my predictors - not the data itself. I really can't say anything more about it than that."

END

Where exactly are these quotes from and does anyone have some insight into what he means by them?


tbone,

I wouldnt bother to be honest. Alex abandoned this approach after too many failures.

NSA
 

daz

Remote viewer, author, artist and photographer.
Staff member
daz. I looked at several example of rv sessions on your site and others related tkr sites. With all due respect they are not up to our standards. The one I sent you I had done 7 years ago. We are 7 years more experienced.

but they were light years ahead of us - and they abandoned the methods :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:

ARV and the search for the perfect method to win money is a modern day philosophers stone.

I tell you what I will reveal the secret of Rv and making money - its really simple.

Do you want to know?

OK.

Its.....


Practice,
then practice some more,
then when you're fed-up, do even more practice.

Then when you are confident and capable, do blind in protocol RV projects for people at $hundreds per session.
Using RV to its strength and NOT to its weaknesses (prediction).

Daz
 
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