Book Review: The Energy Cure by William Bengston, Ph.D.
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RedCairo
do you ever dream you're someone else?
Only slightly related, but -- LD just found this off-the-cuff article I wrote in a CompuServe forum in 1993! HOLY COW! My god, imagine if I had stuff I really didn't want public or something -- 19 years later, something I'd even forgotten existed and there it is public. MAN!
Here's hoping some of those Samhain livechats with the wiccan people aren't archived. LOLOLOL
http://www.artofhacking.com/IET/MEDITAT/live/aoh_healme.htm
PJ
Here's hoping some of those Samhain livechats with the wiccan people aren't archived. LOLOLOL
http://www.artofhacking.com/IET/MEDITAT/live/aoh_healme.htm
PJ
--I suppose the book came in the mail to me at just the right time--arrived this weekend and I have been alternating between the bed and couch, not feeling well (called sick to work past couple of nights)--sounds like I could use it to help myself before I try to go back to work and help others (I'm a Registered Nurse).
tbone said:
Great post
Interesting take from a skeptical angle.Skeptics are slowly but surely coming round to the reality
of PSI. I think 400-600 years from now the world will
be a completely different place once PSI is widely accepted
and acknowledged provided we don't collectively do something stupid
along the way.
T
Red_Star
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Tunde said:tbone said:
Great post
Skeptics are slowly but surely coming round to the reality
of PSI. I think 400-600 years from now the world will
be a completely different place once PSI is widely accepted
and acknowledged provided we don't collectively do something stupid
along the way.
T
Hate to say it but I think you might be right. Of course I won't be around for that long. I just hope that humanity will use it as a beneficial tool rather than destructive means, just wishful thinking I know...
Long interview with Bengston. Transcript and mp3.
http://www.skeptiko.com/william-bengston-hands-on-healing-research-ignored-by-cancer-industry/
Dr. William Bengston: Yeah, in this one we’ve done a couple things. The one you’re referring to I was the subject, as it were. I was also the designer. I was lying in an MRI. I spent a whole bunch of hours in an MRI. In a variety of MRIs. So I’m lying in a closed MRI and I can just barely get my left hand outside the enclosed area. What happens is that into my hand are dropped envelopes which I can feel tactilely. You feel when an envelope touches your hand.
So double-blind people are dropping envelopes into my hand. Some of the envelopes are sham envelopes. They have nothing in them at all other than it’s an envelope. Some of the envelopes have pictures and hair samples of cancerous animals 600 miles away which we got from a veterinarian.
It turns out that to 100% accuracy my brain can tell the difference and that there is a distinct outcome when you drop a sham envelope into your hand. You get a particular tactile response. But if you drop one that has a cancerous need, that has a picture and hair sample of a cancerous animal, the brain responds very differently. It responds very differently 100% of the time. So the brain can tell whether the envelope is live or not, as it were.
This is very, very different than conscious awareness and this goes to my statement that I think that healing might be an autonomic response to need. I’m not aware of anything other than I’m in a noisy, ugly environment and that somebody’s putting something in my hand and taking it out of my hand and putting something in my hand and taking it out of my hand. I can’t tell the difference consciously.
I’m not aware of anything. I’m not a psychic. I’m not sensitive. I’m nothing like that. I’m just lying there in a tube. But my brain is responding and it knows. So if a need is expressed the brain doesâ€â€I was going to say “turns on†but I don’t know what “turns on†means. The brain responds very differently than if it’s just a touch to the brain.
So here again I get to consciouslyâ€â€healing doesn’t require a conscious anything. It doesn’t require belief, it doesn’t require a particular state of mind. I don’t have to be flopping on the floor; I don’t have to be spiritual. I don’t have to be anything.
http://www.skeptiko.com/william-bengston-hands-on-healing-research-ignored-by-cancer-industry/
Dr. William Bengston: Yeah, in this one we’ve done a couple things. The one you’re referring to I was the subject, as it were. I was also the designer. I was lying in an MRI. I spent a whole bunch of hours in an MRI. In a variety of MRIs. So I’m lying in a closed MRI and I can just barely get my left hand outside the enclosed area. What happens is that into my hand are dropped envelopes which I can feel tactilely. You feel when an envelope touches your hand.
So double-blind people are dropping envelopes into my hand. Some of the envelopes are sham envelopes. They have nothing in them at all other than it’s an envelope. Some of the envelopes have pictures and hair samples of cancerous animals 600 miles away which we got from a veterinarian.
It turns out that to 100% accuracy my brain can tell the difference and that there is a distinct outcome when you drop a sham envelope into your hand. You get a particular tactile response. But if you drop one that has a cancerous need, that has a picture and hair sample of a cancerous animal, the brain responds very differently. It responds very differently 100% of the time. So the brain can tell whether the envelope is live or not, as it were.
This is very, very different than conscious awareness and this goes to my statement that I think that healing might be an autonomic response to need. I’m not aware of anything other than I’m in a noisy, ugly environment and that somebody’s putting something in my hand and taking it out of my hand and putting something in my hand and taking it out of my hand. I can’t tell the difference consciously.
I’m not aware of anything. I’m not a psychic. I’m not sensitive. I’m nothing like that. I’m just lying there in a tube. But my brain is responding and it knows. So if a need is expressed the brain doesâ€â€I was going to say “turns on†but I don’t know what “turns on†means. The brain responds very differently than if it’s just a touch to the brain.
So here again I get to consciouslyâ€â€healing doesn’t require a conscious anything. It doesn’t require belief, it doesn’t require a particular state of mind. I don’t have to be flopping on the floor; I don’t have to be spiritual. I don’t have to be anything.
alexispoquiz
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WOWs. Awesome thread. I may have to reconsider this "healing" thing...
I once ordered an audio course... The Science of Medical Intuition by Caroline Myss & Norm Shealy... I have nothing positive to say about it other than it was very colorful and artistically designed... it left a very bad taste with me, in regards to all things "alternative-healing".
Reading this thread though, I'll definitely have to check out this book and reconsider my position.
Thanks for the book review and thanks for that interview link.
Cheers
I once ordered an audio course... The Science of Medical Intuition by Caroline Myss & Norm Shealy... I have nothing positive to say about it other than it was very colorful and artistically designed... it left a very bad taste with me, in regards to all things "alternative-healing".
Reading this thread though, I'll definitely have to check out this book and reconsider my position.
Thanks for the book review and thanks for that interview link.
Cheers
I found this thread very interesting and will make an effort to get hold of Bengsten's book. I wonder how this healing system would work if one attempted to use it on themselves? Or is it something that requires an outside healer?
I did have the unfortunate experience of having cancer at a fairly early age. I was too young to have started regular exams for it and I was in most respects healthier than I had ever been in my life, so we did not catch it early. I was in surgery when they knew for certain, although I would say that my doctor and I both knew before the operation (which was ostensibly for something else) and we had one of those *interesting* conversations when we both talked about it in a circular fashion when agreeing to what he would do, but managed to avoid actually using the word.
Afterward, I was in the hospital for over a week, trying to heal and prepare for the chemo they were rushing me into. Due to an incident with nurses failing to plug in my morphine machine for some hours afterward, and I suppose also the fact that I didn't fit the profile for most cancer patients in the ward, the Director of Nurses took a special interest in me. She came to see me several times before I was released. I suppose she knew that the prognosis was not all that good. She began to talk to me of taking deep slow breaths when I laid down at night and imagining a bright light of energy coming into my body to heal me when I breathed in and then releasing anything bad when I expelled my breath.
I had been living a very busy lifestyle at the time and she also suggested that I sit out on my back porch and slow down and contemplate my life. (it sounded sort of like *get your affairs in order* at the time, but I was admittedly a bit freaked out so I may have taken that part wrong-- Anyway, that is what I did. They rushed me into chemo pretty quickly. When I would ask the staff in the clinic if there was anything else I could be doing, most of them said that they were *not allowed* to discuss anything that was not medically approved...but there were one or two exceptions who said much what the nurse in the hospital had said. I spent my time in chemo, when not sleeping, reading books on alternative methods to heal more naturally. I would like to say that I used some of them, but honestly, there was very little that helped along nutritional lines at that stage, because I was neither eating much nor able to exercise at that point.
But... I did remember the breathing/meditation exercises and due to my own background, I thought they might help; so I guess you could say I was a believer. I also took coral calcium...I had read that chemist's book by Mr. Barefoot about how the calcium would help oxygenate the cells, and I remembered the Noble Prize work that had established that oxygen kills cancer cells. He was convinced that he had cured others of cancer and that it could help even advanced patients, and I wanted to be convinced.
To wind up a long story, my surgeon had guessed my chances at about 50% for managing a "long-term survival", which in cancer lingo "long-term survival" means making it the next five years. If you make it five years with no reccurrances they cautiously hope that you are cured. I am now 11 years out, so something worked. I can't swear if it was the healing meditation or the coral calcium (or even my own immune system), but I would recommend both to anyone else with cancer. I'm sharing in case anyone else, heaven forbid, finds themselves in that place.
I did have the unfortunate experience of having cancer at a fairly early age. I was too young to have started regular exams for it and I was in most respects healthier than I had ever been in my life, so we did not catch it early. I was in surgery when they knew for certain, although I would say that my doctor and I both knew before the operation (which was ostensibly for something else) and we had one of those *interesting* conversations when we both talked about it in a circular fashion when agreeing to what he would do, but managed to avoid actually using the word.
Afterward, I was in the hospital for over a week, trying to heal and prepare for the chemo they were rushing me into. Due to an incident with nurses failing to plug in my morphine machine for some hours afterward, and I suppose also the fact that I didn't fit the profile for most cancer patients in the ward, the Director of Nurses took a special interest in me. She came to see me several times before I was released. I suppose she knew that the prognosis was not all that good. She began to talk to me of taking deep slow breaths when I laid down at night and imagining a bright light of energy coming into my body to heal me when I breathed in and then releasing anything bad when I expelled my breath.
I had been living a very busy lifestyle at the time and she also suggested that I sit out on my back porch and slow down and contemplate my life. (it sounded sort of like *get your affairs in order* at the time, but I was admittedly a bit freaked out so I may have taken that part wrong--
Anyway, that is what I did. They rushed me into chemo pretty quickly. When I would ask the staff in the clinic if there was anything else I could be doing, most of them said that they were *not allowed* to discuss anything that was not medically approved...but there were one or two exceptions who said much what the nurse in the hospital had said. I spent my time in chemo, when not sleeping, reading books on alternative methods to heal more naturally. I would like to say that I used some of them, but honestly, there was very little that helped along nutritional lines at that stage, because I was neither eating much nor able to exercise at that point. But... I did remember the breathing/meditation exercises and due to my own background, I thought they might help; so I guess you could say I was a believer. I also took coral calcium...I had read that chemist's book by Mr. Barefoot about how the calcium would help oxygenate the cells, and I remembered the Noble Prize work that had established that oxygen kills cancer cells. He was convinced that he had cured others of cancer and that it could help even advanced patients, and I wanted to be convinced.
To wind up a long story, my surgeon had guessed my chances at about 50% for managing a "long-term survival", which in cancer lingo "long-term survival" means making it the next five years. If you make it five years with no reccurrances they cautiously hope that you are cured. I am now 11 years out, so something worked. I can't swear if it was the healing meditation or the coral calcium (or even my own immune system), but I would recommend both to anyone else with cancer. I'm sharing in case anyone else, heaven forbid, finds themselves in that place.
Banded_Krait
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Janine:
Thank you for the very informative personal story. I am very happy to hear that you are cancer-free 11 years after your treatment.
I heartily recommend Bengston's book. As I said in my book review, it is right up there with Targ and Puthoff's Mind-Reach in terms of books which have had a profound impact on my life. As is the case with remote viewing, I believe the existence of "remote healing" is further evidence that the phenomenon of quantum entanglement has real-life, measurable effects at the macroscopic level at which we humans live.
Your question as to whether we can do "energy healing" on ourselves is intriguing. I think is would be ethically tough to conduct meaningful experiments in this area, though. Can you imagine saying to someone with a terminal illness, "We'd like you to take part in this study. You cannot accept any other form of treatment. We have no idea at this point whether it will work or not." In his book, Bengston discusses the pioneering research by Bernard Grad into the effect touch has on healing. In some of his research Grad used skin wounds of a size which could easily be reproduced in his lab animals. Perhaps researchers into self-healing could use small, non-serious skin wounds in their experiments.
Thank you for the very informative personal story. I am very happy to hear that you are cancer-free 11 years after your treatment.
I heartily recommend Bengston's book. As I said in my book review, it is right up there with Targ and Puthoff's Mind-Reach in terms of books which have had a profound impact on my life. As is the case with remote viewing, I believe the existence of "remote healing" is further evidence that the phenomenon of quantum entanglement has real-life, measurable effects at the macroscopic level at which we humans live.
Your question as to whether we can do "energy healing" on ourselves is intriguing. I think is would be ethically tough to conduct meaningful experiments in this area, though. Can you imagine saying to someone with a terminal illness, "We'd like you to take part in this study. You cannot accept any other form of treatment. We have no idea at this point whether it will work or not." In his book, Bengston discusses the pioneering research by Bernard Grad into the effect touch has on healing. In some of his research Grad used skin wounds of a size which could easily be reproduced in his lab animals. Perhaps researchers into self-healing could use small, non-serious skin wounds in their experiments.
