Mentoring - Target1 - due 17.8.2012 - give it a go!

daz

Remote viewer, author, artist and photographer.
Staff member
Okay people.
Lets try and get some practice and mentoring done shall we.

I have a target:
1405-2011

Due: 17.8.2012

I will close this in two weeks - 17.8.2012.
Anyone can join-in. As this is a CRV forum - I would like participants to follow the CRV structure and format - details, examples and help on this can be found in the library part of this forum.

Try to go as far as you can into the stages of CRV up to Stage3 only for this first project, if you can. if you are very new then just do what you can even if its only stage1 ideograms - that's OK, we are all here to learn and share.

I will be looking for correct format, accuracy in the sessions. Send your sessions to me @ daz.smith@gmail.com

I will collect them all, write a few notes and when all gathered will put them online here - for us to discuss - so be prepared for your work being here - in public.


Format:
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Scan you pages and compile as an optimized .pdf file.
If you don't have .pdf there are many free tools online for doing this - a quick goggle search will get you many.
Save/scan the images at 150-300dpi black and white (this keeps the file size down).

If you need help with this then email me.


Summary
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I would like a typed session summary as well for your session.
Don't take ages on this - just type a summary of the key information - there are plenty of summary examples on my site for an idea on this. Here is an example: http://www.remoteviewed.com/files/11.4.09/climate_sydney.pdf
the actual summary is the last page (14). Add the summary to the .pdf as well please.

As well as helping with general RV/CRV - hopefully the mentoring and our work together will also help you with key skills to help present your RV data for future clients, projects and needs.

Any questions then ask - email me at the address above.

Don't forget have fun - its not a race - the key is to learn something!

All the best...
Daz
 

daz

Remote viewer, author, artist and photographer.
Staff member
No probs - and have fun and any questions then please ask.

All the best...
Daz
 

daz

Remote viewer, author, artist and photographer.
Staff member
Re: Mentoring - Target1 - due 17.8.2012 - only one week to go!

OK guys 1 week to go on this target - just a gentle reminder
 

MadManMal

New Member
I had a go at this one a couple of days ago, and to be honest the second session i did tonight seems to be driven by the first session memories because its pretty much the same thing.
It seems far too comlicated a target to be true so whats the best way for me to reset/resist the sessions i have?
in life i seem to be great at what i eventually learn but slow getting there and its the structure i seem to fall down on...maybe i have read, listened and studied this too much and need to keep it more simple as a beginner?
(or i just need to focus much less on what i am percieving).any help would be appricated?
 

Marv_Darley

New Member
Staff member
I had a go at this one a couple of days ago, and to be honest the second session i did tonight seems to be driven by the first session memories because its pretty much the same thing.
Don't sweat it - I still have this problem after 8 years of viewing though granted I've got better at it recently. One tip might be to start the session with 5 minutes spent writing out everything you 'think' (or rather your pesky conscious brain thinks) the target is...really sketch it all out and give an output for all those stored memories you have from the first session. Once that's done, put these notes away somewhere with a nod to your conscious mind along the lines of - "okay, so that's what YOU think the target is...I've listened."

Once that's done, attempt your second session. Hopefully you will have alleviated some of the pressure and your mind should be clearer and calmer. Any AOLs that crop up from the first session should simply be recorded in the usual manner.

Marv :)

PS You can't say 'it seems too complicated a target' because you don't know what the target is yet - stop THINKING about it lol
 

daz

Remote viewer, author, artist and photographer.
Staff member
PS You can't say 'it seems too complicated a target' because you don't know what the target is yet - stop THINKING about it lol
I agree with Marv - stop thinking - thinking too much is what hinders RV. But also don't worry that you are doing this - we all do. The rick is getting to a stage whereby you tend to not care anymore and you tend to not think about the target anymore you just do it. Of course Im afraid this may be a few years away - its different for all of us.

Overall though don't stress about any of this - keep it fun and exciting.
Just send the sessions through and well all take a look and discus later. Its not a race, there are no outright winners - if we learn a single thing then we all become winners.

All the best..
Daz
 

MadManMal

New Member
Thanks Guys :)...good advice....if i am honest i have been putting so much work into getting my ideogram speed up to a blur and trying to avioid to many other things till i got it off to pat!..its monkey see monkey do stuff, and very much like the hours of constant morse code and teleprinter training in my signal days :) a couple of years ago i was quite well off and missed the boat (had i only not had my head in the sand) to take the appropriate courses available today for RV.
But i am thrilled at least to have found it now :)
Not really bothered in any way about who else cares if i do this well or not as its just something for me and what i believe i am capable of achieving but have always been one to stick my hand up if i dont understand something well.

Just bought david moorhouses completed guide (havent received it through post yet)...but i have to say out the the scores of hours spent online on this subject Daz,s walkthough on here is the best i have come across thus far!

Mal
 

daz

Remote viewer, author, artist and photographer.
Staff member
Re: Mentoring - Target1 - due 17.8.2012 - last day...

FINAL warning - only a few hrs left - feedback will be given out tomorrow (sat) to the participants.

all the best...
Daz
 

Kiara

Member
Re: Mentoring - Target1 - due 17.8.2012 - last day...

Daz said:
FINAL warning - only a few hrs left - feedback will be given out tomorrow (sat) to the participants.

all the best...
Daz

I've been a bad student Master.

I forgot that today was the last day.

I have until the end of the day, right?

But in witch time zone???


I mean, how do many hours do I have?
I'm in Portugal and it's 15.08 p.m.

At what time do this end?

I have to do the session, photograph the pages, convert them to pdf and send you everything.

Do I have until the portuguese midnight or until some other time zone midnight?
 

daz

Remote viewer, author, artist and photographer.
Staff member
Great!
and thank you all for the participation.

I will get back to you all tomorrow.
Daz
 

daz

Remote viewer, author, artist and photographer.
Staff member
Re: Mentoring - Target1 - due 17.8.2012 - Finished

Thank you for the nine brave souls who started this endevour and CRV mentoring. Its not easy starting something like this and less so allowing your work to be evaluated and displayed in public for discussion.

The first target went very well especially as most of the remote viewers were new to CRV and its the first tantalising steps into a new world. All viewers picked up on elements of the target and as a group whole - the target was covered very well with consensus data from all combined.

The BLIND CRV sessions are all here with a few of my notes attached - these are all in .pdf format.


1405 - 2011
The International space station| above earth| time of the photograph.

Cue: The remote viewer is to move to the optimum position/location and describe the structure at the time the photograph was taken – only.



The Target/Feedback:
http://www.remoteviewed.com/tkr/target1405/1405-2011-feedback.pdf

The CRV sessions:

http://www.remoteviewed.com/tkr/target1405/1405-alexis.pdf

http://www.remoteviewed.com/tkr/target1405/1405-Avaline.pdf

http://www.remoteviewed.com/tkr/target1405/1405-Gerry.pdf

http://www.remoteviewed.com/tkr/target1405/1405-jeane.pdf

http://www.remoteviewed.com/tkr/target1405/1405-jon.pdf

http://www.remoteviewed.com/tkr/target1405/1405-kiara.pdf

http://www.remoteviewed.com/tkr/target1405/1405-malcolm.pdf

http://www.remoteviewed.com/tkr/target1405/1405-pat.pdf

http://www.remoteviewed.com/tkr/target1405/1405-penny.pdf

All who participated - feel free to download and look at each others work - and lets discuss any questions, feelings or comments you may have about your own and each others work here. Again well done all and good start!

All the best...
Daz
 

alexispoquiz

New Member
:) It's great seeing everyone's sessions! Hi-Fives all around!

Daz, you mentioned on page 5 of my session regarding S3 http://www.remoteviewed.com/tkr/target1405/1405-alexis.pdf.

The problem here is S3 is that you named components instead of probing them and writing descriptive data....
I don't quite understand what you mean, when you say "naming components", are you referring to how I "labeled" the individual pieces of the drawing?

What back-up data do we have to support our written impression of "log"?
What do you mean by "back-up" data? Are you referring to my S2s in the previous pages?

I would have liked to see you probe it sketch is as an individual element
Are you recommending for future targets that if I have a "label/component" that is in my S3, that it might be a good idea to copy it on a separate page THEN expand on it...probe it...add more details... insert S2s etc?
 

MadManMal

New Member
Cheers for the feedback Daz. One thing i have learned from this is too trust my first impressions/perceptions and follow it through.The first two sessions i did were dominated with what i perceived as two large brown picket fences in a a pool of blue water with a shiny metal slide in the middle! hence the waterpark theme i got enveloped with. i will have to learn to try detach myself from impressions of what i believe it to be and just collect the data next time.
Looking at the others it would appear that everyone had success in elements of the task so well done all!
 

MadManMal

New Member
Daz, sorry missed the question about ("is this a sketch?) its really odd because after the third ideogram i felt the urge to draw something and as i did my mind started playing tricks ....the sketch was nearly done and then i had an internal sort of battle part of me just wanted to leave the drawing without ribs and semi circles (making it more like a huge metal slide) making fit the theme park thing, but i remember shoving to one side, remembering the adivce i was given on an earler post and then added the straight lines in the centre of the tube sketch and making the tube have a more enclosed feel. also right at the end added two line at the front? not sure if i should have labled this sketch as an aol? i remember thinking (a bad thing!) that "oh well" "maybe its one of those tracked rides with a water involvement" and dissmissed it. Now i look at the target site i can see where the sketch fits.

Mal
 

daz

Remote viewer, author, artist and photographer.
Staff member
Dear Alex,
hope you are well today.


The problem here is S3 is that you named components instead of probing them and writing descriptive data....
I don't quite understand what you mean, when you say "naming components", are you referring to how I "labeled" the individual pieces of the drawing?

Alex:
you have labels for 'log', 'rocks' - these are named objects - in early stages of CRV we don't identify - we probe them and record S2 and other descriptive data. For example - 'log' this is a named thing - now if you'd have probed the sketch and described its texture, temp, its dimensions etc you may have gotten a different conclusion than 'log' which is out of nowhere and with no data to backup the naming of the object.

Does this make sense - in CRV we describe - we don't identify.


What back-up data do we have to support our written impression of "log"?
What do you mean by "back-up" data? Are you referring to my S2s in the previous pages?

Alex: yes this and probed information form each sketch element - it looks like you've sketched the object then come to the conslusion its a 'log' without probing it to see actually what it feels, tastse, smells, and other S2's like. You cnat go by vision alone with sketch data - probe everything.

Now if you'd have probed it and got: hard, textured, fibrous, rough, natural, smells like vegetation, long, tall, layered - log.
then I would be more inclined to accept the naming of the object was probably moving in the right direction - but with no backup data - it looks like an analytical decision based on the look of the sketch - and all analytical decisions are AOL's as they name the component based on a guess and no backup data.


I would have liked to see you probe it sketch is as an individual element
Are you recommending for future targets that if I have a "label/component" that is in my S3, that it might be a good idea to copy it on a separate page THEN expand on it...probe it...add more details... insert S2s etc?

Alex: I would suggest you label each sketch component 1,2,3,4 or a,b,c,d...
then you probe each component with your pen or finger asking what does this feel like, what temp is it, what does it taste like, smell like, whats its dimensions, this type of thing. Even probe around each sketch component for relationship data to the other components or to see if its gas, air, water, space or something else that exists between one sketch component and another.

As an example: http://www.remoteviewed.com/files/11.4.09/missile_display.pdf - page 10 of the pdf - pg7 f my session.
you can see i probed the lines of the sketch and got a whole stream of DESCRIPTIVE data which is valid - but when I named it (Hangar) - this is classed as an AOL as its analytical and part guess.

All the best...
Daz
 
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