Re: Lucid Dreaming

psijunkie

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I've had a few "somewhat lucid" dreams.

In one dream I was in some kind of naval facility or something, and then in my dream I realized "Hey... I'm dreaming". I quickly wrote something down in a book that I materialized in my dream, and then tried flying. I couldn't. Couldnt walk through the walls either. In fact the only control I had was a vague awareness that I was dreaming. I couldn't bring myself to full lucidity.
 

Joe_S

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These experiences have been pretty common for me. Not sure about your evolution of things there, My experiences have always been separate events ( if I am reading you right).
but,
Once I realize I am in LD one of a few things will happen, I instantly wake up, I have that vague awareness and just go with it, and at times I take control of sorts. I can't say it is always that vivid either, sometimes it feels more like seeing things going on through a small pin hole, while trying to drive a big rig with no ps or brakes, and you can never quite get where you want only struggle to slightly change a direction here and there.
Also I have never been able to fly, and don't really remember trying it, I was able to more or less hover a few feet off the ground for a what seemed like about 15 - 20 seconds, and jump long distances and great heights. Anything else hasn't been much like flying as far as LD's go, but more like being sucked up or out into something more than flying.
I have found an obe to be a very different experience from a LD, but that's just me.
 

joanie

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Shortly after this is when I began to become aware of the LD condition, but it was only when I arrived at the symbolic "door" of my apartment that it was hammered home. I think the "break-in" and the "door" were symbolic representations to alert me to the fact (as calmly as possible) to the new experience I was undertaking.
Indeed...something or someone "breaking in" into one's home usually suggests that something new is coming to consciousness. It can be a fearful experience as well (during the dream). Whoever or whatever is breaking in - a person or an animal can represent some shadow or instinctual material, which is what contributes to the panic. To become lucid in this particular dream suggests to me that I was really becoming AWARE of this new stuff, whatever it is.

I love lucid dreams. Haven't had them for quite some time. But they are fantastic when they happen.

Also love flying dreams and have had many of them. For me it's usually a state of euphoria regarding something going on in my life. OR a need to fly above a certain situation. One of the most interesting flying dreams I EVER had was once when I took off like a rocket. Just shot straight up into the air. Wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!

Joanie
 

joanie

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There's some good information in this edition of Electric Dreams newsletter regarding "dream intruders" and nightmares. I've heard it said that "all dreams come in the service of wholeness and healing" and believe this to apply to these kinds of dreams if we pay attention to them.

http://www.dreamgate.com/dream/ed-backissues/ed5-10.txt

Joanie
 

joanie

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Oddly enough, it wasn't the intruder himself that conjured up the fear, but my inability to verbalize a warning. When I realized that no sound was coming out of my mouth to shout a challenge is when the panic set in.
I have experienced the same and other variations of dream intruders and/or attackers over the years.

This inability to cry out or move is called sleep paralysis and I understand that fear -

a blurb about it from http://www.dreamsnightmares.com/sleepparalysis.html-

"Sleep paralysis is a condition in which someone, most often lying in a supine (face up) position, about to drop off to sleep, or just upon awaking from sleep realizes that s/he is unable to move, or speak, or cry out. This may last a few seconds or several moments, occasionally longer. People frequently report feeling a 'presence' that is often described as malevolent, threatening, or evil. An intense sense of dread and terror is very common. The presence is likely to be vaguely felt or sensed just out of sight but thought to be watching or monitoring, often with intense interest, sometimes standing by, or sitting on the bed. On some occasions, the presence may attack, strangling and exerting crushing pressure on the chest. "

Confronting the door/intruder and the three policemen showing up sound goods. I think it's always good to face a dream intruder, difficult as it can be in the actual dream. You might not be surprised to find yourself having more dreams like this in which you do continue to confront and the intruder either disappears or transforms.

I had one dream in which a small black dog entered my bedroom - viciously barking and yapping at me. This one almost seemed to be an obe as it seemed I got up out of my body and in exasperation, picked up the dog by the nape of the neck to toss it out. As soon as I did this, the dog simply melted away.

Another black dog dream - I was being stalked by a large black dog and through my fear, I finally confronted the dog. The dog transformed into a black woman who began weeping and she apologized to me. I can only think this might have been an image of the Black Madonna as well. It was certainly transformative about turning something which was "stalking" and hounding me into something of genuine suffering/letting go.

I've had dreams of men trying to break into my apartment, dreams of going down the basement (unconscious) to look at something VERY SCARY. Even recall a dream (which is also common at least for women) of a madwoman running through the all the rooms of a large house with a butcher's knife and she was going to kill me.

All these I find are quite common dreams and about bringing shadow and instinctual material to consciousness to transform our psyches into wholeness and greater well-being.

Good stuff Larry -

Joanie
 

polkadotpuhjommies

.... don't be ambiguious with your intent ~
Hi Buddy :D

I knew I posted a bunch of stuff a long time ago having to do with aspects of this thread. I did a quick search on sleep paralysis and came up with a bunch of threads for you to research. You will probably want to read the entire threads so you can place the info in context.




http://www.tenthousandroads.com/wbbs/WBB.cgi?board=receptive;action=display;num=1080668654;start=21

sleep paralysis from another perspective.
 
 

sleep paralysis
From: http://watarts.uwaterloo.ca/~acheyne/S_P2.html#pp
 
sleep paralysis  2
From: http://www.stormpages.com/shug1/afhparalysis.html
 
sleep paralysis as an Anomalous REM State   
 
 http://www.meta-religion.com/Psychiatry/Disorders/sleep_disorders/sp_and _anomalous_rem.htm
 
Hallucinations and sleep paralysis  
http://www.meta-religion.com/Psychiatry/Disorders/sleep_disorders/halluc inations_and_sleep_paralysis.htm


http://www.tenthousandroads.com/wbbs/WBB.cgi?board=receptive;action=display;num=1080668654;start=9

Remote Viewer Topics of Interest / Meditation, Healing & Proactive Psi / How To Have An OBE Almost Every Morning
 

Joe_S

New Member
I always hate that dream where I have a suitcase with a million dollars in it, and waking up and searching for it all over the house in a panic and not finding it. ;D
 
K

Klaatu

Guest
Here's part of an interesting interview with Beverly D'Urso, one of Stephen LaBerge's first dream research subjects. She's been trying to achieve lucid awakening, becoming lucid in the waking state:

http://www.improverse.com/ed-articles/robert_waggoner_2004_Aug_LDE_interview_beverly_durso2.htm
 

savant1

New Member
larry,

lucid dreaming requires format...in my dream i was in a sidebar;

writing notes; as i periodically glanced upwards within the context

of dreamweaverlogic...the dream is my palace with golden arches.

where is ingo?...thirdeye retired, bless his soul :)


. regards, savant1
 

workerant

Lost, Out of sync., On a different wave length.
Though I've had several lucid dreams (usually flying dreams), I recently purchased a hemi-sync package of four cassets from the Monroe Institute which are specifically for guiding the sleeper into the practice. I've not been dissapointed by any of their products.
They take the approach of 'schooling' you into new territories.
The Monroe Institue was formed by the man who wrote "Journeys Outside the Body", (I think that's the correct title). They have a cool website and you can listen to excerpts on line. ;)
 
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