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Remote Influencing / Chaos magic?

#1
Hi everyone.

A few weeks a friend of mine told me about a practice named Chaos Magic (the magic of results) that is the new trend in occultism. The main idea is that the subconscious mind is connected with the Kia (its like the tao), and to make a sigil (enchantment) you have to write down your wish, convert it into a symbol so your conscious mind don't interfere with your wish (thoughts like: i wont work, how it will work, when it works how cool it will be). Then, after you've made the sigil you charge it (you see it without thinking like when you see a mandala, or entering in a gnosis state and then see the symbol ) and then forgetting it (I don't know how the hell they do that) so the conscious mind don't interrupt with your intent to influence reality.

Just was thinking in the similarities with remote view like the sigil =coordinates, gnosis=the state of empty mind, and was thinking in its relation with remote influencing, because this people say it works, I've never tried it, I don't have capability to forget a wish, but people who has RI experience, what are your thoughts.
 
#2
Hi rindelanoche:
I use a form of tapping (based on EFT Emotional Freedom Techniques) to manifest. It works quite well. I've also formed groups to do the tapping to manifest things, events, insights etc. for each person in the group. I've noticed that it's pretty easy to mess up on one's own manifestations, but the group energy works better.

For instance, about a year ago I wanted an ozone generator. Once I got clear on what I wanted, I tapped to manifest either an ozone generator or a high voltage source that could be easily made into an ozone generator. It took me about one minute to tap.

I then forgot about it until a week later a friend offers me an ozone generator. About five days after that, I'm given a bug zapper (a high voltage source that could be made into an ozone generator).

It's pretty simple and it works. But do start small, when things are small it's easy to forget about until it manifests. Then build up to bigger things.

Here's a link to a discussion aboout the process.

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/70183022/CTTRadio01.mp3

rindelanoche said:
Hi everyone.

A few weeks a friend of mine told me about a practice named Chaos Magic (the magic of results) that is the new trend in occultism. ...

and then forgetting it (I don't know how the hell they do that) so the conscious mind don't interrupt with your intent to influence reality.

...
 
#3
That is exactly what i was talking about, looks like is the same thing with different name.
I will try it, at first I was skeptical but lets try this who knows.
 
#5
That's cool.
Never heard of it but wow

I can see how the wave from the tap is read.
"It goes right to the heart"

Its reflected into all of our consciousness yet unique in origin.
AS if the tapping alters the force that seem to bind manifestation from just happening.

Veins are antenna like branches to the tree and vibration is a way of turning off or minimizing
the native defensive power of the heart and thru the distraction thought which is normally blocked from the endocrine and is allowed to expos consciousness to the endocrine. Which appears the gate way.
Every third Chakra has consciousness at different scales of influence/time?

Yea Ill be exploring some this. TY Cool stuff - that totally fits.
Tribal drums music all have a soothing laxing effect on the protective heart.
Each protects the next level yet none truly know the ones above or below exist.

The more we get to know the heart the more trusting he become and we mesh with it. It won't mesh with anyone so your love now allows what your tapping accessed. We drift into and out access to endocrine automatically on cycle and that manifests like memory in reverse. Peeps with hate drift in and make that refection. We live in the love of today which we wont project until next week some time, but those who love all the time seem better off.
Hearts get a day off too. :) - Heart hates grain - your in the club when you do too.


My wife brought me nuts 3 days ago, so I'm chewing on them now as you tap in your recording. lol
Yummy TY 48:00 - 4am Friday

so be it
it was done

still chewing :)


Bob
 
#6
Gee, sorry. I somehow missed this post. My main tapping group is full, but I'm forming a second one. I screen those that join. I don't allow agents / shills and other people that may be disruptive in. Send me a PM with how to contact you, then lets talk.


rindelanoche said:
is there any tapping group avaliable? I want to be part of one!
 
#7
I don't really know how it really works. Unless you are sure you fully understand how it works, you might consider tapping for the insights on how it works.

Re the nuts; Great!! We have had some strange manifestions, sometimes things manifest shortly after we make the decision to tap, BEFORE WE ACTUALLY TAP!


Evermax said:
That's cool.
Never heard of it but wow

I can see how the wave from the tap is read.
"It goes right to the heart"

...
My wife brought me nuts 3 days ago, so I'm chewing on them now as you tap in your recording. lol
Yummy TY 48:00 - 4am Friday

so be it
it was done

still chewing :)


Bob
 
#8
Yes I will give it a try.
I was just talking it thru based on a natural RV session I did related to the RV signal source.
This just seems to in sync with that same direction, yet in a reverse sort of way.

I have ( i think) manifested imagery onto photography and art made long ago. At least one is confirmed.
One in particular was a photo of a computer screen and when developed my girlfriends face was like a digitally generated portrait on the screen.
It wasn't not there on the frame before or after and it was at a level of detail not yet capable in 1983.
since have searched for the mechanics to explain to myself... what was that?
Other than that it could come in handy at poker night ;D

I just get compelled to workout the mechanics due to that past experience(s) and to better my remote viewing understanding.


Peace
Bob
 

PJ

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#10
plodder said:
I have been reading some lately on Chaos Magick...pretty interesting stuff.
I am very fond of Gordon White who blogs at http://runesoup.com/ mostly about chaos magick. He has some brilliant ideas and a couple of books. You might like it.

PJ
 
#11
I run a tight group that is mostly Chaote. We are experimenting with this. We prefer servitors for this because you need front end and back end work when your doing CRVI The start up and ending procedure are the point of change. In terms of remote viewing I would do my start up procedure to receive the information or manifestation from the future. Do my session to the point where I can feel the contact or feedback and then the end procedure at the feedback session.

Not all the group are trained in remote viewing so we use scrying and SP which is a unique skill we developed.


you could run in stages like a horizontal tree of life going out on the surface and coming back in the up side down. Base it on a variation of Grant's work. You do each siphera as an evocation for each stage of the manifestation.

The tree of life is about creation and can be worked with either right or left path or in this case both paths are used..

Our stuff isn't that complex but in theory it might help develop the chain in stages rather than just random time loops. We're not looking for incoherent Grant or Crowley like visions but instead developing a systematic manifestation chain.

Any sigilization based on this would be done with linked sigils. Those sigils would then be linked to a powerful stream like the tree of life stream. Testing of the energetic stream can be done by dowsing. You want to make sure that it is compatable with your work and powerful enough for your needs. Streams are not necessarily directly related to magic. For example you could tap into the stream of energy associated with the American election. Associated concepts with that stream which would demonstrate compatability would be power, wealth, success, persuasion and camoflage. A sigilized donkey or elephant ( symbols of the political parties ) would be be intuitively generated. The links could be made in procession like the election progresses and you have the same effect and you are tapping into energy generated by intense emotions and lots of people

Body tapping is using the body as a sigil.. The stream is alternative health care globally speaking. I think you get the idea now. More than one stream can be linked, if you can focus and hold complex ideas in your head while you are maintaining the level of focus needed.
dang just gave me a brainfart :)
 
#12
Continuing to read more on chaos Magick and so on. I like the freedom to explore instead of feeling like I have to be locked into just one paradigm or school of thought and belief system.
 
#13
Is chaos magic a thing, or more of a lack of things? I've tried to read about it, but the only gist I get is it's the idea that lots of arbitrary rules don't really exist. Like in RV we thought you needed an outbounder, until we realized you don't. Then we thought you needed longitude and latitude coordinates, or that you need a random number at all, but you don't. I remember Daz saying there are lots of self-limiting beliefs, like if you believe local sidereal time will hinder your viewing, then that's true, for you. Does chaos magic have a set of guidelines, or is it just saying, "stop having self-limiting beliefs"?
 
#14
What my group and I are finding is that we all have old unresolved upsets and traumas. These seem to limit us left, right, center, top, bottom, front, back and more! What I'm "struggling" with now is that we have traumas that stop us from dealing with our old traumas! The old traumas often first show up as limiting beliefs. When these old traumas get healed, the results are often astounding and life changing.

As I see it, it's pretty simple; heal all the old traumas and then you can do all kinds of magical things like what Lyn Buchanan called PSI - Perfect Site Integration. One man that I worked with was doing this and then stopped! He did not have a big interest in RV, not even spectacular RV.

snorble said:
. Does chaos magic have a set of guidelines, or is it just saying, "stop having self-limiting beliefs"?