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#?916 	From: "pjgaenir" 
Date: Tue Apr 1, ?003 7:?1 pm
Subject: Book Talk: Apr 7-13 Ch 1-3 MIND TREK 	pjgaenir



Hi viewers,

For anybody interested, I'll be opening discussion of Chapters 1-3 of
our first book NEXT WEEK, on APRIL 7th (Monday? ).

Let's see if some actual 'focus group' type discussion can survive in
RV-internet-land.  :-? )

Since the sequence/choice of books seemed ok to those folks I heard
from, I'll stick with that. Our first book will be:

MIND TREK:
Exploring Consciousness, Time, and Space Through Remote Viewing
by Joseph McMoneagle
ISBN 1-878901-7?-9

Hampton Roads Publishing Company, Inc.
I'm using the revised 1997 (yellow cover? ) edition but the old one
(blue eye cover? ) is fine for this.

The book is available in many public library systems, for those
without funding.

It's also for sale at amazon.com for $10.36:
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/18789017?9/

There's a 'New and Used' link on that page to ?1 other sales offers
ranging from $4.00 to $7.00.

I think everyone on the list is an adult, so three chapters a week
(esp. as the book is not long? ) is not a big time investment, yet
enough to let those interested read more than a few pages at once.

After we finish the book, anybody participating who would like to
send something to Joe about what they thought of the book, I can put
them all in one file for him to read, which I know he'd really like.

Here's the info from the back cover of the above book:

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We all have intuitive flashes or hunches that reveal our untapped
psychic potential. Then there are those who have developed this
ability to a reliable degree.

In 1970, while serving overseas in the Army, Joe McMoneagle had a
near-death experience that opened him to spontaneous psychic flashes.
Later, when tested at SRI-International, he was confirmed as a world-
class remote viewer: able to correctly perceive and describe
previously unknown people, places, objects or events.

As a result he was recruited for a top-secret military program, code
name STAR GATE, to develop and apply remote viewing skills for
national security purposes. For twenty years, McMoneagle honed his
intuitive psychic abilities and refined the scientific protocols that
resulted in the most reliable method of information retrieval.

In Mind Trek, the author describes, replete with actual remotely
viewed drawings, the development and application of one's natural
intuition through the proper use of these protocols.

The author, who has been featured on such programs as ABC's Put to
the Test and Nightline, and in articles in Newsweek and Time,
explains the inherent limitations of remote viewing, and demonstrates
how its proper use can unleash great intuitive resources within all
of us.

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More this Monday.

PJ

	#?917 	From: Bill Pendragon 
Date: Tue Apr 1, ?003 7:41 pm
Subject: Re: MIND TREK: Apr 7-13 Ch 1-3-- ? 	docsavagebill



Hi Palyne,

How about  we all head discussions with this heading
in the subject...to keep it separate from other
posts?We can add a dash..then another comment

  "MIND TREK: Apr 7-13 Ch 1-3--????"

Bill*

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Moderator's note: We're lucky to get people to delete 1?0 lines of quoting after
a single line of text. I rather doubt we'll do perfectly with titles.  Good idea
though. I'll post something like "MIND TREK 1-3" as a title and if people
respond to that, great.  Many people get digest and so respond to the digest
title instead, and some will post on their own.  Fortunately it's a small list,
soon to get smaller, and I doubt more than a few will participate, so it won't
be too hard to track. -- PJ

	#?918 	From: "David" 
Date: Tue Apr 1, ?003 7:30 pm
Subject: Re: Book Talk: Apr 7-13 Ch 1-3 MIND TREK 	jam1433



I have bought and loaned out two copies of Mind Trek and it will
probably be impossible to get them back. After that discussion I
would love to see a discussion on the The Ultimate Time Machine (my
personal favorite? ). I would really like to see a discussion of Joe's
projections of the future.

David
Houston

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#?9?0
Date: Wed Apr ?, ?003 1:34 am
Subject: Re: Book Talk: Apr 7-13 Ch 1-3 MIND TREK 	rfjuice?000



Hi PJ,

        Turns out my library system doesn't have it, thanks for the ISBN and
the link, I'll probably have to order it.

Book Talk is a good idea,
Linda

	#?9?? 	From: Bill Pendragon 
Date: Thu Apr 3, ?003 3:54 pm
Subject: Re: Interview with Lyn B on "RETASKING" ..It's REAL! 	docsavagebill



BILL ASKS: Lyn I hope I did not misquote you..about
retasking

LYNS REPONSE ON RETASKING
Nope, remaining totally calm.  Actually, the knowledge

of this type of
tasking activity has been around since Russell Targ
(not Stephen Schwartz? )
formulated ARV.  There was at least one instance of
"retasking" or "double
tasking" done to us in the unit&&&..

&&&&We were tasked   with
"practice targets", with the hidden agenda
  [highjack -retasking] of   using the results in a
sort of
Associated RV method, to give other  information.

I am totally against this type of tasking, because
like Ralph said, it can
reflect back and mess up a viewer's session as far as
the proper target is
concerned.  The excuse of it being OK because you use
practice targets,
which don't matter as much is a cop-out, and as far as

I'm concerned, is
just as bad on the viewer as doing it with real-world
operational targets.

Anyway, I don't cover this in my teaching because I
have never wanted to
put the idea of it out into people's minds.  For some,

the temptation to do
it would be too much, so I just conveniently don't
bring the subject
up.  Besides, there are a lot more important things to

cover and not enough
time, anyway.

When you get to thinking about it, ARV is nothing more

than "retasking" or
"double tasking", and suffers the same pollution
problems because of it
(something I haven't seen any ARVer ever take into
consideration, so
far.? ).  But, at least ARV is done with the
understanding and permission of
the viewer.  Doing it TO the viewer without the
viewer's knowledge and/or
consent is what I am totally against.

Bill Asks>BTW.. is it true that writing END SESSION
really
would
>block "Jack-Tasking"

Not at all.  The "Jack-Tasking" is the improper use of

a person's session
content by someone else, and is not a function of the
viewer's work at
all.   There is absolutely nothing a viewer can do to
prevent someone else
from coming along later, even years later, and
applying the information to
a different target.  It won't even prevent someone
from doing it at the
time of tasking (intentionally tasking one target with

the intent of using
the results for another.? )

>  it seems that would depend on how
>strong the intent was and maybe other factors? I'm
>interested in blocking accidental retasking during
ARV
>that seems to occur during analysis and judging of
>sessions.

I like that...... British understatement.

>And also if I post my sessions to a web
>site..I don't want them Jacked. .

The only way you can prevent that is to not post them.