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#3194
 	From: "Elizabeth Hambrook" 
Date: Fri Jun 6, ?003 7:?3 am
Subject: Crop Circles RV'd 	ozblueriver



Hi Ron,

you were saying:

If you look at crop circles for example it does appear they are a
collective consciousness signature or imprint created by our thoughts
and the thoughts of other species as well. Elizabeth was saying it
would be great to move objects while RV'ing and after thinking about
that statement we just have to look at crop circles as proof to know
that we can and are moving matter with our thoughts through space and
time. But we do love that FEEDBACK!! DON'T WE!!
>>>>>>>>>>>>

I haven't heard your theory above before. Could you elaborate on it a bit more
for me.

I have only RV'd a crop circle once. It was one of Pru's targets. I remember it
well because I described the pattern and stunned myself. LOL

But during the session I also saw bodies (viewed from the waist down? ) in white
overalls and white gumboots as would be worn in a sterile environment. They were
in space in some sort of vehicle. I also saw a dish antenna.
David H also did that session and saw men in white lab coats at an instrument
panel if I remember correctly, and 'something' hiding in the shadows. (is that
right Dave?? )

PJ, mentioned she had RV'd a crop circle and saw what seemed to be boards on
rope being dragged along. (is that right PJ?? ) It sure sounded like a man made
job in that case.

Has anyone else RV'd a crop circle? Could you let us know what sort of results
you got?

Obviously some are man made but the rest.......???  Lets see what we've all come
up with so far.

Cheers Liz

	
#3199
 	From: David 
Date: Sat Jun 7, ?003 11:?3 am
Subject: Re: Crop Circles RV'd 	a_healey56



You're right on Liz.  I would go dig up the session, but you remembered most
of it pretty well.  I got lots of weird UFO-like feelings, and I think that
was probably the first target that Pru gave us to do that wasn't real basic
gestalt stuff, so we surely weren't expecting anything like that.

Dave

	
#3?05
 	From: "Eva" 
Date: Sun Jun 8, ?003 9:?6 pm
Subject: Re: Crop Circles RV'd 	k9caninek9



I have rved two different circles and both sessions were done blind.
For one circle, I just ended up describing the pattern of the circle
and how the grass was laying down in some places.  For the other
circle, I got something like jiggly blobs of energetic stuff that
sounded a lot like the electromagnetic genesis theory.  In the same
session, I got a man sitting on a couch with a TV remote in his hand
but he was pointing the remote up towards the ceiling and the ceiling
seemed to be a kind of bubble like covering.  So that session was
kind of interesting.  I remember being extra curious what the
feedback would turn out to be..
-E

	
#3?08
 	From: Bill Pendragon 
Date: Mon Jun 9, ?003 ?:04 am
Subject: Re: Re: Crop Circles RV'd 	docsavagebill



Good viewing.

Did you get any idea of tom foolery.. or was it like
the guy was legite?

Bill

--- Eva  wrote:
> I have rved two different circles and both sessions
> were done blind.

	
#3?10
 	From: "Elizabeth Hambrook" 
Date: Mon Jun 9, ?003 ?:07 am
Subject: Re: Re: Crop Circles RV'd 	ozblueriver



Hmmmmm. Interesting. Was he a regular type person?

Eva could you please fill me in on what the electromagnetic genesis theory is.

cheers Liz

  > From: Eva
   > I got a man sitting on a couch with a TV remote in his hand
   > but he was pointing the remote up towards the ceiling and the ceiling
   > seemed to be a kind of bubble like covering.

	
#3??4
 	From: "Elizabeth Hambrook" 
Date: Tue Jun 10, ?003 6:40 am
Subject: Re: Re: Crop Circles RV'd 	ozblueriver



>...... I saw visuals of spheres and I was in the ocean
>looking
>at ripples in the sand at the bottom and I saw a sea
>tortoise and in another vivid dream I saw a dolphin
>ascending very quickly and again I saw a sphere just
>ahead of it's bottle nose. It looked like an oxygen
>bubble just ahead of it. Within a week a huge crop
>circle had formed out on the west coast and guess
>what? The pattern was ocean waves or what appears to
>be ocean waves.

Hi Don,

That is way coooool.  What a great experience. There is so much of life to be
thrilled about isn't there. It's awesome I agree. I'll keep an eye out for that
crop circle. You seeing it before it appeared makes it even more interesting.

Ahhhhhh the intrigue!

It reminds me that on the net about a year ago there was a photo of a huge
circle on the ocean floor. The scientists didn't know what to make of it.
It would have been a good RV target.

We seem to be getting quite a variety of different crop circle data. That's
interesting in itself. Maybe someone ( Glyn? ? ) would like to do a summery to see
what we have come up with so far.

Cheers
Liz

	
#3??7
 	From: "dinellrd" #3?3?
 	From: "Glyn" 
Date: Sun Jun 15, ?003 1?:04 pm
Subject: RE: Re: Crop Circles RV'd 	gebega



Hi Ron,

I'm sorry, I wasn't following that closely, and missed what  I was to do a
summary about, so when I read that was a bit mystified.  :-? ). Looking back I
see that Liz mentioned me...probably because I used to practice some
analysis over on Farview,  where a few viewers would do a target and I would
pick out correlations between them. I was (nearly? ) always blind to the
target though, and the sessions would be quite easy to compare because they
consisted of lists of descriptives/impressions, and not narrative. I didn't
come to any conclusions of my own, but at the end I tried to together a very
short summary of what had been picked up.

I can't do that in this case because not only do I not have the sessions, in
a form I can use but I am 'frontloaded'...so I may be unconsciously biased.
Anyone can do it though, nothing clever about the simple way I did it
although others may have different methods. I  just looked for areas of
commonality between sessions; some are quite subtle however, and you do have
to use your own judgement occasionally as to what should fit where, but try
not to form opinions of your own as to what the target is...which is quite
hard actually.

You really need four sessions at a minimum IMO, and no more than 7 or 8 in
total or it really gets hard work and it is easy to miss things. Do a matrix
(spreadsheet? ), with groups down the left hand side for types of impressions.
I was always changing these, but basically you should have groups for -
colours, tastes, smells, shapes, textures, life, dimensions, impressions
about topology, and some other groups to catch ideas and emotions etc (it
seems quite easy until you do it, and you really have to work out groupings
that make sense to you and can 'catch' most impressions? ). Then across the
top you put the Viewer names and then enter their impressions and split them
(where they can be split? ) into the various groupings. Bear in mind that if
you split some narrative type impressions down too far you may lose
something.

Then you rank them. If there are 4 Viewers and three mention 'hot' then
there is likely to be heat at the target. Do that with all the groups.
Search for commonality/correlation, and as I said sometimes it's a bit
subtle and can be hidden in narrative...for example, two may say 'ice' and
another may mention he had an AOL of going skiing. However, to top it
all...if you know you have one consistently good  Viewer and three that are
not so consistent, then is it wise to totally ignore the good one  if he
says 'hot'? :-? ). That's where it gets complicated and you need to look more
deeply.

Try it some time, it's good fun, but you will be surprised how much work it
is.

Regards,
Glyn

	
#3?11
 	From: "dinellrd"