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#34?1
From: Karl Boyken
Date: Sun Jun ?9, ?003 11:11 am
Subject: Re: Further thoughts on DAT and healing kboyken
Yeah, that's it, in one sentence. Heh!
I do healing because I do feel it has some effect on people, because it
feels "right" in some way, because it heals me, too, I feel. Because
something is steering me that way, much to my surprise. I think that,
even if someone did prove scientifically that DAT applies to healing and
healers are simply choosing patients who are more likely to have good
outcomes, I'd continue doing healing, anyway. It would probably be a
big jolt to my whole reality system, a fork in the road. I'd have to
turn my back to science, I think. Interesting--this whole issue is
bringing up some good stuff for me to work on, personally. Thanks for
helping me sort through some of it.
Karl
> I don't do healing stuff just because I want someone to be healed.
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Karl Boyken
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pjrv : Messages : 3405-3448 of 4038
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#3405
From: Karl Boyken
Date: Sat Jun ?8, ?003 ?:14 pm
Subject: Further thoughts on DAT and healing kboyken
As I think more about DAT and healing, it seems to me that if DAT does
apply to healing, then I'd have to question the whole practice of
healing. Western allopathic medicine has been able to change the rate
of incidence of many disorders, even eliminating some diseases entirely.
But DAT would seem to imply that that kind of success is impossible
with distance healing. If DAT is applicable to healing, then healers
cannot change the overall rate of occurrence of a disease, or the
chances of a favorable outcome from a disease. If that is the case,
then I'd have to ask myself, why even do it? If all I'm doing is
reshaping the distribution of outcomes, or, maybe even worse, just
associating my healing with favorable outcomes and rejecting unfavorable
ones, then what good is it?
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Karl Boyken
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So.... perhaps 'healers' only choose the patients who are already prone to get
well? That could be, actually.
I don't do healing stuff just because I want someone to be healed. Actually I
don't do it with that intent anyway as I believe people are what they are for a
reason. I do it because it's a way to share love, which is a warm fuzzy
regardless of whether they're healed, and because I think of it like, they might
accept more healing (allow it more? ) if they felt more secure and encouraged by
me psychically, so I want to give them that, in case it helps.
Also though, it is just very good practice. I've always been better at tuning
into anybody for healing than for RV, for example, which is obviously some
psychological issue on my part. PJ
#3438
From: Bill Pendragon
Date: Mon Jun 30, ?003 3:30 pm
Subject: Re: Further thoughts on DAT and healing docsavagebill
Hi Karl,
I don't really think that healing occurs by DAT. I
think that it is usually just not very effective so is
marginal statistically .. and has only that
"statistical" simillarity to DAT..but is not the same.
Energy healing that I have witnessed and in some
cases done in Rob Abbots classes occurs far more
frequently and takes place because of a direct action
on the energy signature of the disease process. When
you destroy the aura of a disease process you make it
much easier for the body to repair.. This is hastned
further by adding "intention" in the form of "thought
form" concepts fitted into the flow of healing energy
that is directed to the area to repair the area and
destroy or remove malignant or bad cells.
Bill
#3448
From: Karl Boyken
Date: Wed Jul ?, ?003 9:0? am
Subject: Re: Further thoughts on DAT and healing kboyken
Hi, Bill.
Yep, according to Schlitz's talk, anyway, there's no evidence yet that DAT is
involved in healing. It just got me thinking about the implications if it
were--it's apparently still an open question.
Karl
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