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#3463
From: "Linda & John Garvey"
Date: Mon Jul 7, 2003 12:58 pm
Subject: Re: Higher selves linda_g7us
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> I don't think i have a higher self. i was a
> premie, premature. they said
> there are no higher selves available right
> now unless you want to wait. I
> was in a hurry so i took the next best
> offer of several lower selves.
LOLOL Fortune -- practical, as always. eh?! ;)
I myself can't really relate to higher and lower selves, or past, present
and future selves. I feel like I am one self, in different situations (or
dimensions, etc.). Just me. One me.
I'm probably in the minority on this one, since just about everybody on the
various lists I'm on talks about their higher, lower, past, present and
future selves. I guess everyone experiences themselves differently.
Whatever works...! :)
Linda G
"The distinction between past, present and future
is only an illusion, even if a stubborn one."
-- Albert Einstein --
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From: Bill Pendragon
Date: Mon Jul 7, 2003 6:14 pm
Subject: Re: Higher selves docsavagebill
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Haste makes waste..LOL.. G So does that include Merywell??
Bill
> I
> was in a hurry so i took the next best offer of
> several lower selves.
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#3469
From: Weatherly-Hawaii...
Date: Tue Jul 8, 2003 12:17 am
Subject: Re: Higher selves maliolana
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Aloha Linda,
You wrote:
> I'm probably in the minority on this one, since
> just about everybody on the
> various lists I'm on talks about their higher, lower,
> past, present and future selves. I guess everyone
> experiences themselves differently. Whatever works...! :)
It is not so much as dividing one's...self...or discarding...oneness
with self...but focusing ...on certain traits/expertise...that one most
appreciates ...in ones self...and using the term ...higher self ... as a
conjouring up/tool...
that exascerbates that part of self ...that always does the correct/
appropriate thing...the psi/intuitive self...
and since there is no such thing ...as perfection (or as some of my
friends interpret it...everything is already perfect)...it cannot be
attained... nevertheless...
It is all a construct anyway...either way...Simply a valuable temporarily
designated...personification... a line of communication ... concerning
the 'unknown' or ...unclearly known...to self...Sorta like a target
ID...if your into Rv...
For some it is more concrete...the higher self...is a 'belief' as you
say...
but for many of us ...it is ...I think ...more a...characterization ...a
creative designation...a communicative tool...
It is a term we can relate to...because it (the construct) helps us
scrutinize/analyze ourselves( sans dogma)...and of course ...We are all
one...all of us!...Mine (mini/many selves) are always together
...'Higher self' is simply
a visualization technique...to conjour up a representative...higher
self...Magic even...perhaps self disapline?
Each seperate individual experience ... in my life... has called on some
new elements or aspect of myself ...to be constantly providing info...to
introspect upon...from more and more tangential angles...thus adding yet
another layer to self...I am my own Bene' Gesert...
I see the forest...but that does not mean...there are no individual
trees...Or that I truly place one tree above another...(Ok sometimes...
the bigger/older the tree... the more upset I get when they get bull-
dozed down)
Each aspect of self ...in its own best place...is my goal...A team effort
of one......All one...
Perhaps... more like the rings /layers of a tree...One can
create/fantasize/ imagine/designate/represent ...one ...to be the higher
ring...
but it would only have deep meaning ...to the
individual...collectively... or not...I am agnostic in most things...
Don't take it so darn serious...shee...I don't...Untill others seem to
have so much trouble with it...
I like it...The term serves its purpose for me...I don't 'believe' in
it...but
it is a usefull pragmatic tool...Untill a better one comes along...
I am not exactly suggesting every one obsess on it ...to the point that
they begin to give actual names and ages and like Sybil/or Eve... break
up into seperate people...
compartmentalize memories...but on the contrar...to free one's memories
up to process themt )o all of self)... ...We wouldn't want anyone to
destabilize...That is not the benefit...
To become more centered...and self aware...is...and to learn to love and
accept all selves...no matter what their past actions may have been...to
love self...all of self is not always easy...Takes time/attention/work...
Like Fortune said...I also ..."got my share of lower selves"
My higher self is the most poetic one......one aspect of me...
in a major collage of me's......Holographic even...memory in each and
every cell of my physical/temporal body alone...
I say..."Pick a spot... and call it thy higher self!"..."Why
Not?"hahahah...
In a wholistic fashion...not simply/myopicl;y linear...
PS...I also like to use the term 'future self'...for visualization...cool
down... but that is kinda silly as well...in that ...
if all time ...takes place simultaneously...than there is no such thing
...as future...and so ...therefore ...of needs be... there can also not
be a future self...
Only a now/awake self...extending in all directions...
Nevertheless I like it anyway... hahah
pss...Like you said..."Whatever works!"
I also have 30 yrs of doing I-Ching with friends ...and Tarot...So I
guess
I am slightly predisposed... to using that sort of terminology......
They say we (homo sapiens) invented/created time...and others say...We
even created god...So why not a higher self?...Perhaps we are all
really the Angel Gabriel...each and every one of us...It could happen
As some sang ..50's music (rythym and blues/rock & roll (bop)/jazz?)
"Life is but a Dream"...mmm...pa dididly bop padidily pop...life is but a
dream...mmmm...etcetera...
Love & Light & Laughter
Mali'o...aka...Dawna
Auther C. Clark "Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguisable
from magic."
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#3474
From: "Linda & John Garvey"
Date: Tue Jul 8, 2003 1:44 pm
Subject: Re: Higher selves linda_g7us
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Aloha Dawna --
Yes, I understand that it's used as a construct, point of focus and
visualization tool by most, and perhaps an actual belief by some.. It's
just one that has never worked for me. So I just stick with my one self
LOL.
:) Linda G
"The distinction between past, present and future
is only an illusion, even if a stubborn one."
-- Albert Einstein --
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2006/07/01 15:13:56
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#3483
From: "Linda & John Garvey"
Date: Tue Jul 8, 2003 9:18 pm
Subject: Re: Re: Higher selves linda_g7us
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>it's all coming together now Elvis was my higher self. Look at all
>the good that did him.He is no longer in the house, as they say.
>don't step on my blueseude shoes, Fortune
Awwwww, poooooor Elvis.... Well, at least now we know, eh? LOLOLOL
Lilnda G
"The distinction between past, present and future
is only an illusion, even if a stubborn one."
-- Albert Einstein --
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#3484
From: Weatherly-Hawaii...
Date: Wed Jul 9, 2003 12:47 am
Subject: Re: Re: Higher selves maliolana
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Aloha Fortune,
Mine (selves) don't have genders/bodies/personhood/nor recognizable
voices......I get to bear those burdens/joys...
and I get to make up/create... whatever imagery feels good/works...
at the moment......
> it's all coming together now Elvis was my higher self. Look at all
> the good that did him.He is no longer in the house, as they say.
> don't step on my blueseude shoes, Fortune
Elvis hmm?...hahahehehe...The young one?...Perhaps he will
do a better job...
now that he is deceased...He is... isn't he?
Love & Light & Laughter
Mali'o...aka...Dawna
Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguisable from magic."
"Arthur C. Clarke
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#3490
From: "consulting...ngworks.org"
Date: Fri Jul 11, 2003 7:40 pm
Subject: Re: Re: Higher selves tarot_expert
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On future selves?
Just remember future selves are the ones that might be, they are probably
not set in stone. So if they talk you into altering your future? You may
not see the same one when you get there.
gogogirl
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