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#598 
	From: "David Humphries" 
Date: Fri Aug 23, 2002 11:41 am
Subject: RV at work 	a_healey56
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I was looking at my long list of things that I need to do today, not to
mention this weekend, and wondered if I was ever going to have time to view
one of the targets on the Firedocs website in the next two days.  It made me
wonder if anyone ever gets perceptions of targets they're working on while
they're about their daily business?  I get perceptions about other things
all the time while I'm working, so why not a target that you intend to view
too? Maybe it's too hard to sort out the perceptions you get about things
during the day, and don't know where to assign them.  I'm going to set my
intention to get some target data during the day and see what happens.  It
can't hurt to try.  Has anyone done this before?

Dave

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#602 
	From: "PJ Gaenir" 
Date: Fri Aug 23, 2002 2:44 pm
Subject: Re: RV at work 	dennanm
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> On 23 Aug 2002 at 8:41, David Humphries wrote: I was looking at
> my long list of things that I need to do today, not to mention
> this weekend, and wondered if I was ever going to have time to
> view one of the targets on the Firedocs website in the next two
> days.  It made me wonder if anyone ever gets perceptions of
> targets they're working on while they're about their daily
> business?  I get perceptions about other things all the time
> while I'm working, so why not a target that you intend to view
> too?

A buddy of mine, who was mildly obsessed with practicing RV in a way I sure
wish *I* was, was so exasperated by not having time around work, wife, life,
that he finally decided to do RV at work.

Now this was funny, as he did the admin at a firm that worked with trucks and
vehicles, repair and more, so he would be trying to RV with a giant airgun
pounding in the next room over. :-)  And his phone ringing, and people walking
through...

His work sessions were often not very good.   But, sometimes they were
enough to be interesting, useful, to learn from.  And, it "kept him in the
swing"
in a way that he didn't feel like he was starting all over again when he finally
got time at home, like on the weekends.

He learned to have more fun with it and not take it so seriously as a result of
this.  He knew his results were likely affected by the environment, but he also
knew he could sometimes do well anyway, so he figured what the hell, it was
worth a try.

He focused on basic targets at work, and the conceptual stuff (his wife is his
tasker) he would do ERV-style at home.

This isn't the same as hoping for various info throughout a day of course -- I
would not be able to track such a thing or know what to take seriously or pay
attention to.

However the process of trying this might get to practice "being aware of your
thoughts" throughout the day, which in itself is a really great exercise.

Big storm here.  I might be out of the pjrv loop tonight.

Regards,

PJ

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#604 
	From: Timelord2029...
Date: Fri Aug 23, 2002 12:34 pm
Subject: Re: RV at work 	psitrooper24
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Hi Dave,

I ve done a few sessions at work and one recently which i commented on
here on this list i think (didnt get any response from that so
i thought not many have tried it )
I work for a top IT company in a busy help desk enviroment
and it can be hectic in there at times, still with all the noise,
going on around me i still did pretty well with no cool down whatsoever.
In fact i had to break the session several times just to make sure
no one was standing beside me as you can lose momentary awarenes
of whats going on around you deep into these work sessions.

Its great when you nail the target and look at your collegues
who do not have a clue where you have just "been" in time an space.

amazing stuff indeed :)

Peace,
Tunde

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#605 
	From: "Elizabeth Hambrook" 
Date: Fri Aug 23, 2002 6:31 pm
Subject: Re: RV at work 	ozblueriver
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Hi Dave,

Coincidently, that is just how I managed to do the latest Farview target. I get
all excited when the target is posted and wanted to do it straight away but I
also had a pile of reading I wanted to get through. I sat by the fire in a chair
and began to read but I kept getting such strong impressions of what the target
was.

I took a note pad and jotted down the bits and pieces of information that came
to mind while I read. There was a distinct difference between what I was reading
and what impressions were coming through. I must say here that I did not
intentionally try this, it just happened.

I think there are two reasons why it worked (at least that's what I'm hoping).
When we read our minds are totally focused. Being so totally relaxed with the
mind occupied seems to allow 'other' information to freely flow as well. I guess
it is similar to a mantra or any other technique that keeps the mind from the
flow of chaotic thoughts.

Because I was so keen to do the task my mind seemed to gravitate towards that
info while I read without any conscious input from me. Very handy really!  haha

I'm not going to do any of that target the 'normal' way just to see how the
'book reading' session went.

Have a groovy day
Liz

> wonder if anyone ever gets perceptions of targets
> they're working on while
> they're about their daily business?

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#606 
	From: "k9caninek9" 
Date: Fri Aug 23, 2002 9:28 pm
Subject: Re: RV at work 	k9caninek9
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Hi PJ,

YOu know, I really don't think peace and quiet are required for a
good session, especially if it is not the ERV type.  You know, there
is a fair amount of racket around here at my house.  The phone rings,
dogs bark, people knocking on the door.  The dogs are actually the
worst since my late night preferred viewing hours are also the times
that the coyotes are out and the dogs go bananas barking at them.
Then there are the 10,000 frogs that live in the runoff area near the
street.  You wouldn't think frogs are that noisy until there are
enough that you literally trip on them when you go outside.  I can't
even hear the individual frogs because they overall effect is a
constant roar.  When I was first starting, I used to get REALLY
exasperated with the dogs especially.  Then after a while, I kinda
got over it. I learned I could start and stop the session without any
real problem.  Stopping to get the door is really not much diff then
taking any other kind of break in a session.  I even did some
sessions while intermittantly watching TV.  They actually turned out
quite good, certainly at least as good as my normal ones.  Perhaps TV
is the perfect thing to put the logical mind into a deep stupor.
LOL!
-E

>
> A buddy of mine, who was mildly obsessed with practicing RV in a
way I sure
> wish *I* was, was so exasperated by not having time around work,
wife, life,
> that he finally decided to do RV at work.
>
> Now this was funny, as he did the admin at a firm that worked with
trucks and
> vehicles, repair and more, so he would be trying to RV with a giant
airgun
> pounding in the next room over. :-)  And his phone ringing, and
people walking
> through...
>
> His work sessions were often not very good.   But, sometimes they
were
> enough to be interesting, useful, to learn from.  And, it "kept him
in the swing"
> in a way that he didn't feel like he was starting all over again
when he finally
> got time at home, like on the weekends.
>
> He learned to have more fun with it and not take it so seriously as
a result of
> this.  He knew his results were likely affected by the environment,
but he also
> knew he could sometimes do well anyway, so he figured what the
hell, it was
> worth a try.
>
> He focused on basic targets at work, and the conceptual stuff (his
wife is his
> tasker) he would do ERV-style at home.
>
> This isn't the same as hoping for various info throughout a day of
course -- I
> would not be able to track such a thing or know what to take
seriously or pay
> attention to.
>
> However the process of trying this might get to practice "being
aware of your
> thoughts" throughout the day, which in itself is a really great
exercise.
>
> Big storm here.  I might be out of the pjrv loop tonight.
>
> Regards,
>
> PJ