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#3313
From: "Elizabeth Hambrook"
Date: Wed Jun 25, 2003 8:03 am
Subject: RV/RI dream ozblueriver
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Hi everyone,
Last night I had an interesting dream about RV/RI.
In the dream two people were communicating with each other over a distance. I
think it was via e-mail, but it was definitely some sort of physical
communication.
I discovered I could hear their communicating in my head and was very excited
about it. Bill P and I worked out exactly how many times I would have to pick up
on the messages in order to get the information exactly right. Then we'd be able
to RI the lotto. (yeah, dreams are weird!)
But just as we had figured out how to get the information so that it was 100%
accurate, it dawned on me that even if we achieved this, we could only be as
accurate as the original information.
End of dream.
That got me thinking. Where exactly am I getting the information from when I do
sessions?
I've always just assumed it's from my sub which know everything, but is that
true? What if I'm picking up information about the target from another source or
even lots of different sources. It could be coming from:
-the tasker
-someone else doing the target
-any or every person ever associated with the target
-the cameraman who took the photo (if its a photo)
-etc.
What do you think would be the source of the purest information about a target?
Cheers Liz
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Liz, I think we DO have access to info from every imaginable source and some
that we don't imagine. How do we hear only what is relevant? The same way we
hear the person talking to us in the midst of a crowded, noisy room full of
conversations. We learn by intent and expectation and feedback to pay attention
to what we want. IMO anyway. - PJ
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#3317
From: David
Date: Wed Jun 25, 2003 12:14 pm
Subject: Re: RV/RI dream a_healey56
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Liz, do you remember the RV dream that I told you about several months ago?
Later today I'll post it to the list and see what others think about it.
Dave
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#3338
From: "Linda & John Garvey"
Date: Wed Jun 25, 2003 2:39 pm
Subject: Re: RV/RI dream linda_g7us
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I generally find that even with a complex system or circumstance, whe you
get down to the foundation, there is simplicity, simple principles. If I
get all tangled up in complexities, I just try to go back to basics, and
work from there.
Linda G
"The distinction between past, present and future
is only an illusion, even if a stubborn one."
-- Albert Einstein --
>From: David
>PJ, I like this answer and am inclined to think this way myself. I have a
>core belief that underlies every belief I have -- that the truth is always
>simple. If someone makes something out to be too complicated I'm almost
>always inclined to think that something just isn't right.
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#3339
From: "Elizabeth Hambrook"
Date: Wed Jun 25, 2003 10:58 pm
Subject: Re: RV/RI dream ozblueriver
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> PJ: Liz, I think we DO have access to info from every
> imaginable source and some that we don't imagine. How
> do we hear only what is relevant? The same way we hear
> the person talking to us in the midst of a crowded, noisy
> room full of conversations. We learn by intent and
> expectation and feedback to pay attention to what we want.
Hi PJ,
Yeah, I agree with that.
In the past though I haven't put a whole lot of thought into where the info
comes from so I haven't felt the need to give my sub specific instructions.
When police interview witness from a crime scene they have found that people
remember different things. And not necessarily the true facts. If I pick up on
info from all over the place I could just as easily be picking up wrong
information about the right target.
As intent is so important I think from now on I'll be more specific in what I
ask my sub to find.
I'm just being a nit picking Virgo.
Cheers Liz
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Virgos unite! I'm a Virgo x4, Scorpio x3, Aries rising. Love it! :-) PJ
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#3366
From: "Elizabeth Hambrook"
Date: Fri Jun 27, 2003 7:26 am
Subject: Re: RV/RI dream ozblueriver
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Hey Bill, we've got something going on here because in the past when you've
posted your dreams I've dreamt either exactly the same thing or very similar on
the same day. (prior to reading about yours ).
What's going on??????
Hmmmm, I like you idea of getting lotto info from someone in the future.
Although it would still require receiving numbers.
Maybe if I take note of the winning lotto numbers and then say them out loud.
I could RV my future self and try to hear what I said.......??
Cheers Liz
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#3387
From: Bill Pendragon
Date: Fri Jun 27, 2003 7:27 pm
Subject: Re: RV/RI dream docsavagebill
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Hi Liz,
Could you please send me a photo so I can see if I
saw you in a recent dream? I posted a photo of myself
with my sisters baby raccoon "Dobbee-Boo" on
Freevent.. but I can send another if you wish. It
seems crazy..but I always like to at least give
corroboration a chance. And these email lists are
perfect for that since you get to know people long
before you actually see them and they may well show up
blind in dreams..it's happened a couple of times to
me. I'm not sure if an astral body always looks like
the person .. ???
Best Wishes,
Bill
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> Could you please send me a photo so I can see
> if I saw you in a recent dream?
Now THERE's a line for the psychic happy hour crowd! - PJ
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#3409
From: Weatherly-Hawaii...m
Date: Sun Jun 29, 2003 3:01 am
Subject: Re: RV/RI dream maliolana
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Aloha PJ,
> Could you please send me a photo so I can see
> if I saw you in a recent dream?
>>> Now THERE's a line for the psychic happy hour crowd! - PJ
hahahahaha...Good one!...You obviously caught that too!...hahahahaha
Got to put that one down for Rich's RV Roast...
Love & Light & Laughter
Mali'o...aka...Dawna
"It is no measure of health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick
society."
-- Krishnamurti
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#3441
From: Bill Pendragon
Date: Mon Jun 30, 2003 6:23 pm
Subject: Re: RV/RI dream docsavagebill
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DEAR PJ and Dawna,
Shame on you! This was a request for the sake of
science not for some naughty purpose..You are such
suspicious J types... ..G
Bill
> >>> Now THERE's a line for the psychic happy hour
> crowd! - PJ
>
> hahahahaha...Good one!...You obviously caught that too!...
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Uh huh. :-) PJ
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#3430
From: "Elizabeth Hambrook"
Date: Sun Jun 29, 2003 6:52 am
Subject: Re: RV/RI dream ozblueriver
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> Could you please send me a photo so I can see
> if I saw you in a recent dream?
No problem Bill.
Cheers Liz
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#3319
From: "Arlene"
Date: Wed Jun 25, 2003 11:38 am
Subject: Re: RV/RI dream rosearlene
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> "Elizabeth Hambrook" [Snip]
> That got me thinking. Where exactly am I getting the information
from when I do sessions?
> I've always just assumed it's from my sub which know
> everything, but is that true? What if I'm picking up
> information about the target from another source or even
> lots of different sources. It could be coming from:
> -the tasker
> -someone else doing the target
> -any or every person ever associated with the target
> -the cameraman who took the photo (if its a photo) etc.
> What do you think would be the source of the purest
> information about a target?
Hello Liz,
When I first was learning how to RV my partner used pictures. The
very first picture he choose, I kept coming up with thoughts of him.
Couldn't clear him out of my mind. However, I kept trying. Eventually
I got the target, although I thought I was way off. He apologized for
the picture he choose saying he forgot how that might throw me off.
The picture was of everything I described with him on the front porch.
Another picture we did, I told him I kept getting this feeling of
being dizzy and just feeling weird, almost like being high. However I
got a lot of target information and nailed it. When he sent me the
picture of the target he added a post script saying that when he had
taken the picture he had been drinking for days and was very drunk.
Said he thought I went beyond the target to him, the picture taker.
So, yes, I believe you are right you do pick up information about the
target from lots of different sources. As far as [What do you think
would be the source of the purest information about a target?] I
think that maybe there really isn't such a thing. I think that it
will all come through if you just let it. Most of the targets I have
done have proved that. Even when I think I'm way off, I see that I'm
not when given the feedback.
;-)
Arlene
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#3337
From: David
Date: Wed Jun 25, 2003 6:38 pm
Subject: Dream about RV a_healey56
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Hi everyone,
I've had several dreams the past year where the entire dream was reading
printed material. In each instance the dream seemed to have lasted quite a
while relative to the total content of the dream. In one dream I opened an
envelope from a former girlfriend, and read a letter that she had written to
me. It was about eight pages long, printed on different types of medium, in
different types and sizes of hand-written fonts, and some kid-style pictures
and pasted-in cut-outs too. It was uncharacteristically cute for her (she
was a very serious person). If the entire content had been typed in a
similar size and style as I'm using now, it probably would have been about
six times as long as this letter is up to this point. The strange thing is
that although I would normally consciously read that much with good
comprehension in about a minute, it took a very long time to read it all in
the dream. It was one word or maybe a short string of words at a time, and
it seemed like it took an hour to read it all. I had a few other dreams
similar to this one too. In another, I was just looking at what appeared to
be a print ad. It was mostly white with some orange, and with black text.
This one only had a few words. They said:
"Listen to four radios at a time -- learn to RV".
Strange!
David
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Wow! That's cool David. I often get entire written materials in dreams as
well--I read whole books, write books, often get info in shining gold light
letters, but I also hear/compose songs I've never heard and things like that.
Wish I could bring more of it to waking life! I often get the concept of "four"
in my dreams as well, but that has personal significance for me. -- PJ
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#3320
From: David
Date: Wed Jun 25, 2003 12:12 pm
Subject: Re: RV/RI dream a_healey56
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PJ, I like this answer and am inclined to think this way myself. I have a
core belief that underlies every belief I have -- that the truth is always
simple. If someone makes something out to be too complicated I'm almost
always inclined to think that something just isn't right.
This leads to other questions relevant to the subject at hand, but they will
have to wait until later in the day.
Dave
> Liz, I think we DO have access to info from every
> imaginable source and some that we don't imagine.
> How do we hear only what is relevant? The same way
> we hear the person talking to us in the midst of a
> crowded, noisy room full of conversations. We learn
> by intent and expectation and feedback to pay attention
> to what we want. IMO anyway. - PJ
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#3358
From: Bill Pendragon
Date: Thu Jun 26, 2003 4:49 pm
Subject: Re: RV/RI dream docsavagebill
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HI LIz,
This is really wierd but a few weeks ago..I had a
dream about communicating with a woman about emailing
and RV..!! But all the details of the dream were gone.
LOL.
One place you could get the information would be your
future self or another person in the future..that
already knows the answer tot he lotto.
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