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#1328
From: Rfjuice...
Date: Mon Nov 18, 2002 6:10 pm
Subject: Some thoughts on double-blind tasking rfjuice2000
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Hi PJ or anyone,
Could you clarify something ? I am not formally trained so please bear
with me. Regarding double-blind tasking being an important stipulation, as I
take it the viewer and monitor might have some telepathic connection.
Suppose a session is not double-blind and the monitor does know the
target, and the viewer sees the correct information, however the viewer
surpasses the limited knowledge that the monitor has and goes on to describe
much more detail and information which is confirmed upon feedback. Do you
feel that session would have value? Or is it that you are referring more to
public and/or scientific demonstrations where proof no "hanky-panky" was
going on is necessary, so then the double-blind stipulation? Or is there more
to it from a training standpoint?
I do agree double-blind conditions are the best way to go. Unfortunately,
many of us practicing at home don't have the luxury of a monitor, let alone
double-blind conditions.
I'm just trying to tap into your experience, and would appreciate any
thoughts you have.
Thanks,
Linda
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#1333
From: Bill Pendragon
Date: Tue Nov 19, 2002 12:17 am
Subject: Re: Some thoughts on double-blind tasking docsavagebill
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Hi LInda,
I think that's just fine and Bevy for instance worked
that way on crimes most of the time. But if you want
to prove to YOURSELF that you really hit the target
without help..then you might want to avoid it IMO. But
if you are trying to solve a murder, or save someone..
use whatever you can.
Best Wishes,
Bill
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#1351
From: greenmn900...
Date: Tue Nov 19, 2002 11:52 am
Subject: Re: Some thoughts on double-blind tasking greenmn900...
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Linda,
I don't use a monitor either. Try this: Have someone make up 20-50 targets
and seal them in unmarked envelopes. Throw them all in a garbage bag and
shake them up, mix them up. Then pull out one at random when you want to RV
and do your session. You will be working under doubleblind conditions. I've
done 99% of my targets this way. It works.
Best Regards,
Don
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#1363
From: Rfjuice...
Date: Tue Nov 19, 2002 5:51 pm
Subject: Re: Some thoughts on double-blind tasking rfjuice2000
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> docsavagebill writes
> I think that's just fine and Bevy for instance worked
> that way on crimes most of the time. But if you want
> to prove to YOURSELF that you really hit the target
> without help..then you might want to avoid it IMO. But
> if you are trying to solve a murder, or save someone..
> use whatever you can.
Hi Bill,
She was quite amazing, wasn't she? Wish I could have met her. When you
exceed past the monitor's possible knowledge, (and I mean with no
frontloading, except the target number).and it is verified, that's pretty
good work IMO.
What helps me is just actually practicing, over and over, find out what
works and gets the best results for me, and just do it.
Thanks,
Linda
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#1369
From: Rfjuice...
Date: Tue Nov 19, 2002 5:59 pm
Subject: Re: Some thoughts on double-blind tasking rfjuice2000
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> Have someone make up 20-50 targets
> and seal them in unmarked envelopes. [...]
Hi Don,
I'll give that a try, who knows what kind of targets my hubby with
choose, well they'll be a surprise I'm sure :)
Thanks,
Linda
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Moderator's note: I made my own target pool, so I chose my targets. But there's
around 800 of them (and a couple hundred more coming). So although I did see
them, there are so many and so VARIED and so many similar things too for any
major-specific thing, that is functions as double blind. -- PJ
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#1376
From: greenmn900...
Date: Wed Nov 20, 2002 7:37 am
Subject: Re: Some thoughts on double-blind tasking greenmn900...
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Linda,
That's great. My wife makes my targets. You guys will probably have a lot
of fun with it, we do. You ought to have him read McMoneagle's "Mind Trek"
and "Remote Viewing Secrets", at least the targeting parts, so he'll get a
better idea of what makes really good targets. This can make a big
difference in how fast you progress.
Good luck,
Don
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#1393
From: Richard Krankoski
Date: Wed Nov 20, 2002 7:19 pm
Subject: Re: Some thoughts on double-blind tasking Rich_crv
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> > Have someone make up 20-50 targets
> > and seal them in unmarked envelopes. [...]
>
> Moderator's note: I made my own target pool, so I chose my targets.
I am curious what part intent plays for each target. Are the targets just cut
out and tossed in an envelope? Do you take some time deciding what the actual
tasking is? Is it written down with the target? Is there any directive to view
the actual site at the time shown?
I am thinking that if one merely gathers up a bunch of photos, even very
selectively, and just seals them away the RVing turns into "what's in the
envelope?"
Rich
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From: greenmn900...
Date: Wed Nov 20, 2002 3:47 pm
Subject: Re: Some thoughts on double-blind tasking greenmn900...
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Rich,
I think it's best if the back of the picture is covered with white paper and
any parts of the picture that aren't important are cut out. That's also
another reason why the targets should be chosen pretty carefully, so there's
one thing in each picture that really stands out. But you're right, you
could also write down a description of exactly what you want the Rver to
target from among the things that are in the picture. I think anything done
that will help pinpoint and maybe intensify the taskers ointent would help.
Best regards,
Don
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