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#1242
From: "Sharon Webb"
Date: Tue Nov 12, 2002 2:31 pm
Subject: Subconscious mind sharwebb_30512
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According to Anna Wise's book, "The Enlightened Mind," theta brain waves are
where the subconscious "lives" and delta waves are the abode of the
"unconscious." She says that without an alpha "bridge" that theta and delta
mind content are not available to the conscious mind. So...extrapolating from
that, it would explain how stuff floats up sometimes and doesn't at other times,
depending on whether we are actively producing theta, delta AND alpha waves
simultaneously.
Sharon
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#1245
From: "Glyn"
Date: Wed Nov 13, 2002 1:21 am
Subject: RE: Subconscious mind gebega
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Now that is interesting! It rings a bell with some research I read about
somewhere where 'psi' was observed to occur when all those brainwaves were
present. Heck, wish I had a better memory......tend to sort of skim over
things like that and when needed I can't remember where I saw it!! Anyone
else?
Glyn
>Sharon wrote
>According to Anna Wise's book, "The Enlightened Mind,"
> theta brain waves are where the subconscious "lives"
> and delta waves are the abode of the "unconscious."
> She says that without an alpha "bridge" that theta and
> delta mind content are not available to the conscious
> mind. So...extrapolating from that, it would explain
> how stuff floats up sometimes and doesn't at other
> times, depending on whether we are actively producing
> theta, delta AND alpha waves simultaneously.
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#1248
From: "David Humphries"
Date: Wed Nov 13, 2002 11:17 am
Subject: Re: Subconscious mind a_healey56
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It's my understanding that they are all always present, and that psi
supposedly works best when certain of them (alpha and theta) are more
active. Right now, though, nothing is for sure in my mind. Most of the
explanations to this question that I've read seem to me to be constructed
around popular new-age "doctrine", which seems to me to be just as dogmatic
and blindly followed as the theology of any organized religion out there.
Dave
> 'psi' was observed to occur when all those brainwaves were present
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#1250
From: "David Humphries"
Date: Wed Nov 13, 2002 11:36 am
Subject: Re: Subconscious mind a_healey56
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I wrote those last two posts one right after the other, and the following
was really more of a carry-over from my response to Rich's post. The
scientific neurological tests that have been done, few as they may be, have
some credence with me, while dogmatic-sounding beliefs of how the mechanism
for psi operates is still in question for me. Sorry for the confusion.
Dave
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From: "Sharon Webb"
Date: Wed Nov 13, 2002 2:32 pm
Subject: Re: Subconscious mind sharwebb_30512
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David,
They are not all always present. This is according to various EEG studies made
over the last several decades.
Anna Wise says that repressed material can show up as a complete absence of
theta waves, for example. Alpha and delta waves may or may not be present. The
only "given" is that in an awake individual, beta waves will be present. And
even that doesn't ALWAYS hold true. :-)
Anna Wise's book gave me an explanation of what was going on in my brain when I
went through an extended period of physical empathy. I was literally picking up
people's physical symptoms around me and experiencing their pain and malaise.
This led me to avoid crowds like the plague. It was a very trying time.
According to what I recently read in her book, an excess of delta waves can
cause an extremely enhanced psychic and empathic state.
Sharon
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From: David Humphries
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It's my understanding that they are all always present, and that psi
supposedly works best when certain of them (alpha and theta) are more
active. Right now, though, nothing is for sure in my mind. Most of the
explanations to this question that I've read seem to me to be constructed
around popular new-age "doctrine", which seems to me to be just as dogmatic
and blindly followed as the theology of any organized religion out there.
Dave
> 'psi' was observed to occur when all those brainwaves were present
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#1278
From: Weatherly-Hawaii...m
Date: Thu Nov 14, 2002 11:57 am
Subject: Re: Subconscious mind maliolana
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Aloha Glyn,
I heard about this at the 2001 conference...Jack Houck I believe was
giving brain wave scans in his room ...I can't remember where I read
it...but we all do this all the time...go into and out of all these
states...Delta is very brief or we would be in real trouble in daily
life......We just aren't focused on any given area per se...If we
breach these barriers without grounding ourselves... for more than
briefly...we can end up very conflicted...or so I heard...
In the 60's when they were legally experimenting with LSD...one of the
first rules was that a guide (a person that was not on the drug but had
taken it in the past) was assigned to the first time people ...to remind
them ...that they were on a psychedelic/hallucinogenic and to not freak
out...because it would fade and go away in a given period of
time...flashbacks were said to be common...
Most people didn't jump off building or go crazy/die...In fact it was
used as a means to treat psychiatric patients at one time and was touted
as being quite beneficial for them...I guess the effects were so profound
it helped the mentally disturbed get a grip on reality...On the other
hand some people obsessed and regularly /habitually overdosed...I am
pretty sure these people had some lasting side effects...
A persons brain waves have lots of ups and
downs(peaks/spikes)...dependant on the person...
I think children are into alpha/theta/delta... a lot more than most
adults...I know most of the animal kingdom is...except when forced into
self awareness... Fright/ flight..
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Love & Light & Laughter
Mali'o...aka...Dawna
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#1283
From: Weatherly-Hawaii...m
Date: Thu Nov 14, 2002 10:36 am
Subject: Re: Subconscious mind maliolana
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Aloha Sharon,
That is pretty much how it 'feels' to me now days...It is good to be able
to do this (view) now and then...when not in deep meditation...Another
great trick is to know...be aware of ... the difference......Not that
I am all that enlightened though...haha
Love & Light & Laughter
Mali'o...aka...Dawna
> it would explain how stuff floats up sometimes
> and doesn't at other times, depending on whether
> we are actively producing theta, delta AND alpha
> waves simultaneously.
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